I've been a big fan of gleeson over the years but he didnt perform in the world cup (admittadley he was nowhere near the worst offender) and has had his worst season that i can remember. I'd say smith was right not to pick him, it might just give the kick up the a*se he needs to bring his game back up to its former level and give us some more options for centre next year.

apparently senior did'nt get in touch with tony smith himself to tell him he came out of retirement...

Yeah i heard that, surely its up to Smith though to ask the player, Keith probably just didn't want to blow his own trumpet to much and take selection for granted, he was making enough noises to suggest that if the call came he would have played!

keith has blown his own trump, if he wanted to play he should have made that clear to the coach...not gone to the press and said "if you want me come and ask me"


it's that kind of attitude that cocked our world cup up...we're a team not a group of individuals

Disagree, Its down to the coach.

You think Sinield is a better player than Anthony Watmough ?

where have i said that??

I think both players have there strengths and weaknesses.

He scored a couple of good tries in the WC, one from stand off. I thought he played well myself

Well imo it does.

better RL player yes.....better 2nd rower battering ram...no


and did'nt watmough lead the league in missed tackles or something?? or errors or something like that??

no it doesn't i was simply stating that Watmough (if playing loose forward) is a totally different type to what sinfield is!

Just go back and read my comment properley before you start talking rubbish.

No where near as good as he's capable of, for whatever reason gleeson has been been low on form for over a year now. he used to have the best step of any english centre, now he doesnt.

gleeson has shown signs of class for wigan since he has signed, particularly against hull kr in the playoffs. his defence has really impressed me since he came to us, i never had him down as a big defender but the defensive work he has done for us has been awesome. id still of had him in the england squad as the opposite centre to shenton, hes performed on the international stage in the past and im sure he could perform again.

Gleeson's decline can be traced back to his last season at Warrington when he started playing closer to the middle of the park rather than out in the centres, almost as a stand-off/loose forward hybrid.

Took away his big advantages, which are one-on-one footwork and sleight of hand.

Nonsense. If you want to come out of retirement you talk to the Coach.