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[i[i]"A footprint is the overall size of the mark left when a foot touches the ground, therefore, Leigh would already be included as part of the "footprint" along the M62 corridor".[/i[/i]
WRONG. I am talking about the footprint of PROFESSIONAL SUPERLEAGUE CLUBS IN ENGLAND. Leigh aren't that YET.
[i"You are 100% right about (no) travelling fans from Toronto to England" [/i
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[i"In terms of numbers watching the SL games (on TV), replacing Leigh for Toronto will reduce the overall number of fans watching SL"
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WRONG I am talking about real fans who pay real subscriptions to SKY. Leigh fans will buy subscriptions with money - Toronto fans can't buy these subscriptions. Have you swallowed the ridiculous claims TWP made about 80,000 (or whatever it was) fans around the world following and watching them on social media
[i"Do the wider public tune in to see Leigh on TV or Toronto ?"[/i
I'm sure Toronto attracted a big viewing bonus for SKY on the double header, I am sure fans are still fascinated by TWP despite them being rock bottom of the table. But you tell me how long people will be diving across the living room carpet to switch on SKY when TWP are on towards the end of this season? Failed novelties wear off quickly don't you agree?
But here is the bottom line. Superleague do not want Toronto. Danny Lockwood states this and states that SL rigged the fixtures so Toronto's first five matches were against last years top five SL clubs. He states the SL clubs didn't have to be so hardline on TWP's player shortage either.
You forget the RFL negotiated TV deal has a season and a half to run. After that Superleague will be taking over the whole deal and dictating the set up. Do you really really think Lenegan will be keeping Toronto in Superleague and leaving out Leigh? You could not be more wrong on that one, thanks for the reply
Toronto are dead men walking.
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| Quote: Donnyman "
Whats your take on London Broncos? They dont bring fans but from what i've read there is a high % of sky subscribers who reside in the south.
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| Quote: Donnyman "Really? Superleague is currently a league with a 10 club English content.
Should Leigh be promoted, Superleague will have another English professional club that will (1) run a player development system to expand the player pool and will (2) attract more English fans to subscribe to the TV deal and expand that income and (3) see hundreds of Leigh fans attend away games and expand attendances. Those first two factors are the definition of expansion accepted by Toronto when they joined the RFL, and say an average of 500 travelling Leigh fans will expand attendances here significantly.
So your incapable of debate if you cannot accept those three simple facts the first two accepted by Mr. Argyles club, facts that were accepted by Mr. Perez and later Mr. McDermott when he accepted that TWP would not be adding any quality North Americans to the player pool. (don't start being silly quoting Ngwati) nor adding any money to the TV deals....and whilst in SL not bringing any away fans- with attendances so far dispelling the stupid made up myth that TWP will attract a big following here..
Leigh for Toronto will see Superleague expand it's M62 footprint in terms of paying TV viewers for SKY....
Leigh for Toronto will see Superleague expand it's M62 footprint in terms of pro player development here....
Leigh for Toronto will see Superleague expand it's M62 footprint in terms of travelling fans expect 3,000 at Wigan
Whoever you are you adopt exactly the same pose most so called expansionists take that if some rich guy finds 17 players from Leigh, take them to Mali in Africa, and dress them up in Timbuktoo shirts then takes Wigan's Superleague place that is "Expansion" It's not, it's ridiculous as is the crazy idea of flying two teams out to Canada at great cost to pretend they play and watch RL in Canada in any number. Get back in yer beer tent.'"
Ah yes, rl being played in Leigh, a town that can't get more than 5k average to a game and has been playing rl for generations, is really expanding the game.
Rugby league really took off the year that Leigh made it to super league. If only we knew then how good we had it.  |
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| Quote: Cokey "Leigh averaged 6,521 when in SL. We Just fell short of retaining SL status,so who knows what the average would have been the following season if they wasn't relegated? hypothetical yes,but imo more would have attended. BTW - Wigan v Leigh at the DW Stadium attracted the 5th highest attendance of the regular season with a crowd of 15,699. ![]()
Why do you and your mate Donnyman consider anyone who has a different view to your own to be trolling? Are you both incapable of having an adult discussion?
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| Quote: Donnyman "
You assume Sky subscriptions will increase, did this occur when they last reached Super League?
There is no evidence to say that it will, because as another poster has already said, I would assume that if I was a rusted on ''real'' fan of Leigh and rugby league was my favourite sport, then I would already have a Sky subscription.
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| Quote: The Silent H "Why do you and your mate Donnyman consider anyone who has a different view to your own to be trolling? Are you both incapable of having an adult discussion?'"
You didn't give a view, you gave an insult (To Leigh Centurions),in which I responded with facts, so you never really entered a discussion did you old boy. |
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| Quote: Cokey "You didn't give a view, you gave an insult, in which I responded with facts, so you never really entered a discussion did you old boy.'"
Where was the insult?
If you want to play that game, you accused me of having multiple aliases. |
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| Quote: Cokey " You are quite welcome to continue trolling if it makes you feel better old bean. 
Anyway TWP are back in court soon over unpaid bills - Danny told us.....
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Unpaid bills again this is getting quite worrying for a new team
Who's it with
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League Weekly are reporting that London Skolars have released a statement advising that Toronto have failed so far to pay monies due to them in relation to the 'sizeable minority stake' purchased in December 2018.
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| Quote: snowie "Unpaid bills again this is getting quite worrying for a new team'"
They're learning fast, soon they'll be right up there |
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Can we rename this to "The general whining about Toronto" thread then we have it all in one place and all the other threads might stop getting locked?
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| Quote: Wanderer "League Weekly are reporting that London Skolars have released a statement advising that Toronto have failed so far to pay monies due to them in relation to the 'sizeable minority stake' purchased in December 2018.'"
On this topic they also owe a bit of backpay to players they have released. Never did Salford any harm though |
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