ok, so its over again, thank feck

i'm over it, next year will be much better with hardly any worthless, pointless internationals, just games of real value, SOO & the NRL

You do realise he won the Dally M award for been the best stand off in the NRL?

This has been gone over time and again but scraping 6ft and 16st Meninga wouldn't be tearing anyone apart. When he played against his opposite number it was like u15 v u11 not anymore.

Does it also signify the end of your worthless and pointless posts?

perhaps

UK Viewing figure for the final was 1.56m, pretty good for Saturday morning that. I imagine the BBC will be happy with that. As a comparison the Wales v South Africa RU fixture yesterday afternoon rated 1.68m (but with a smaller % audience share).

That's pretty decent. Even sky news were pushing it yesterday morning

If that game had been a S.O.O. match, you'd be raving about it for years.

In some ways it's good but it's still depressing that it got less than a 'friendly' international that didn't even involve England.

Hopefully those people that did watch it will want to watch the New Zealand series next year too.

True but lets not also forget that the South Africa Wales game was on prime time afternoon slot and virtually all of Wales watch the rugby.

The fact that Cameron Smith said it was the toughest game he had played in says everything about the intensity of the game. We just needed to execute better. Keep saying it but Watts (a prop with speed, good lines and an offload) and Shaul (off the cuff, unpredictability, pace) could have made a difference in that game

The trifecta:

Whingeing Poms
Soap dodgers
State of origin more important

Now that this is over, there's at least one good thing, the ocker trolls can f*ck right off until next time.

The loss of SOL was the difference there. We struggled to score when he wasn't on the field throughout the tournament and, against the Aussies, it was clear that we had no one to straighten us up and play at the line. That said, a better, more inventive half back partnership could have gone some way to negating this. That's why I think it's imperative we get Tomkins and Williams playing in the halves for Wigan. The Aussie axis is based on years of playing together at club level. We need to have the same advantage. I just hope Shaun Wane has his England hat on this coming season.

Watts is way too much of a penalty machine for me. Taylor a better option IMO, always seems to be difficult to put down, very rarely drops the ball or gives away a penalty. I'd be earmarking Walmsley to take the starting spot from Graham when he retires, and Taylor to come onto the bench. That's all form-dependent, obviously. Hopefully George Burgess can regain his form and push for a spot.