No I don't think he is going to provide any evidence since I very much doubt he has any.

Silly me though, I forgot that once tb has said something 3 times it automatically becomes true*.

It's the law.

* - as stated in tb's Big Book of Disingenuous Bollox

So have they got completely new backers? With a bit of luck, it will be people with plenty of cash behind them. They should rebrand to Wrexham or North Wales Crusaders in my opinion, leave Scorpions to the South, build up a rivalry , North and South Wales already have that. Hopefully this will cement a pro RL club in Wales for a long time now.

It's the same guys as before. The new company is called W Crusaders Ltd, which could mean either Welsh or Wrexham will proceed the Crusaders moniker.

You dont need to be a stable business to be in Super League Europe then? Next stop scrapping the salary cap and a return to the bad old days

The thing that gets me is all this "inherited debt" business. When the Wrexham outfit took control last year, they and the RFL new all about this debt, which means their are two conclusions you can come to.

1. Wrexham had a business plan in place that the RFL ratified and one that dealt with this debt, and if they are to be believed that support for the club has been better than expected, then why have they not been able to stick to their business plan.

2. The second option and one more near the truth I suspect, is that Wrexham and the RFL new all along that the debt was unserviceable and that the club would have to be restructured again. I believe that with the move of home and owners last year coupled with a poor league place, poor crowds etc, that going into administration and in affect forming a whole new club mile away from south wales, was deemed just too unpalatable and not likely to get the backing of the other clubs.

Other questions this raises, were the crusadars playing with the smallest playing budget? if not why were the RFL registering players to a club who's debts were clearly out of control.

Why were the RFL giving extra financial support to a club clearly heading into administration, knowing they were already the main creditor?

The money that has Just been given to the administrators to pay the player, is this tied to the Old or new club?

Their is one line that sums up the whole situation in RL at the minute, and it is the one about the clubs voting to change rule on clubs becoming insolvent. The rule was their to act as a very strong incentive to clubs to run themselves properly, exactly the sort of rule a STRONG GOVERNING body should be putting in place for the protection of clubs and the whole game. Yet it has been repealed for the benefit of ONE club just about sums it up really.

Hiccup indeed

is this you trying to derail another thread?

IMO a packed non-modern ground looks better then an empty modern one. Same as a rammed Jungle or Headingley looks better then an empty Galpharm. Not a dig at Hudds, just saying empty seats always look bad on TV whatever it's for, that's why if there is a televised concert or event which is only half-full they use black covers to cover up the empty seats, thus making them less visable on TV.

To refer to this as a "hiccup" is totally disrespectful to creditors who are losing money in this fiasco, including the RFL and its customers "us".

The stupid thing is that Nigel Wood probably thinks he has to say these things to protect the games "profile" outside the heartlands, Well wake up Nige the game has no profile outside the heartlands. I hear people say that he is making RL a laughing stock, well he is but to the people that already CARE as nobody else gives a fig, and in his efforts to put up this front, he will find one day he has lost the people that really do CARE.

...and that company's registered address is the home address of Moss I think.

Off course the RFL knew about the debts, they have had people in running the club for the last 12 months for which they billed the Crusaders £700,000. So ultimately you could say its the RFL that have taken the company into administration