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great way to embrace our new league sponsor. ffs wish some people wasn't allowed to use the internet.

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I can't beleive the good DR has spent 12 months putting out fake PR after fake PR for Salford, then has the audacity to be critical of someone elses fake PR.

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. If he wants more money in RL, then you don't talk down anything, because other wise when the next deal is up for bidding , they will bid you down.

With a sponsorship deal you should be pushing the value of the deal to the maximum, so the next time round other bidders are aiming higher and not lower.

To try and under cut the story on the first day shows that he has well and truely joined the ranks of the RL establishment of fans. People who can't help but put foot in mouth about the game.

If he has an issue with the deal, there have been and will be plenty of RL and SL meetings for him to bash heads and demand better.

It's as though we can't help ourselves, from running our own game down. I'm sure First Utilities are delighted with the open and negative spin they have got from this. I'm sure lots of other sponsors are looking at the fans reaction and saying, hmmm there is a tempting offer, sponsor a sport and get slated for it.

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'There's only one code of rugby.':



Maybe it's £750k per club per annum? icon_wink.gif

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It's reasonable to conclude the size of the sponsorship deal in terms of money handed over is nothing to shout about from the rooftops... otherwise details would have been provided with accompanying huge fanfare as opposed to the policy of confidentiality and keeping schtum.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: loiner81 "Why does everything with you have to be compared with RU? It's a different sport played that most of us could care less about....'"

You don't care...but
Quote: loiner81 " How did the last RU WC go? Biggest drop in attendances in the history of the sport wasn't it? The RL WC broke records left right and centre. '"

If you think the drop in attendances was bad for RWC 2011, look away when it comes to the increase in 2015 icon_lol.gif you really are an idiot aren't you? New Zealand, population 4 million and change....RLWC 2013 host nations 100,000,000+.........which comp has a million more spectators and not a double header in sight? icon_lol.gif

The combined attendances from the 13 RLWC's 1954-2008 was less than the 2007 RWC managed on its own......do you want to compare the World Cups some more? c020.gif

As for the Sponsorship deal......if it were all cash, the RFL would have said it was. It is a contra deal with a % of the money dependant on how many fans sign up to this company for gas and power. If you think otherwise, then fine, but it would show exactly how naïve and in denial you really are icon_rolleyes.gif

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: gutterfax "You don't care...but
If you think the drop in attendances was bad for RWC 2011, look away when it comes to the increase in 2015
No, i'm not interested in comparing another sports attendances with ours like i mentioned earlier and which you've conveniently ignored - again, it's irrelevant. Let's look at our own attendances and see if we can improve on those each time, that's what's important. We broke record after record last year, that's all that matters. Hopefully the Aussies will do the same next time out.

As usual you brought RU into it so I pointed out the last RU WC was a total disaster by their standards showing the biggest drop in attendances in RU WC history (have NZ ever hosted a WC before?) You've come back with a load of excuses and moved the goal posts, again. As for the Sponsorship deal......if it were all cash, the RFL would have said it was. It is a contra deal with a % of the money dependant on how many fans sign up to this company for gas and power. If you think otherwise, then fine, but it would show exactly how naïve and in denial you really are
Wow. You never learn do you.

And what's with all the insults? For someone who's obviously fairly intelligent you somehow manage to sound like a 12 year old boy on here arguing day after day over who's got the best toys. It's embarrassing.

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Quote: gutterfax " It is a contra deal with a % of the money dependant on how many fans sign up to this company for gas and power. If you think otherwise, then fine, but it would show exactly how naïve and in denial you really are

If it was a contra deal, surely they would have said in the press release to get more fans signed up so First:Utilities get more customers, SL more money. I can't see it been something they wouldn't mention. However i did notice in the press release they said "unique deal" so we shall wait and see.


I think cash has been exchanged. £750k over 3 years is the figure been most put about. If they have a contra deal as well, it may not be too bad a deal. Many RL fans will switch to product just because the support RL. So could get some decent money off that.

Yes it is some way off the engage deal which shows how much the Stobart deal hurt the sport and people should have lost their jobs for that. However £250k per year, plus % money back on contra deal is a damn lot better than £0 and a 100 painted lorries. Hopefully we can build on this deal and have more bargaining power come 3 years time.

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I don't think anyone has mentioned yet that the press release stated that this is the first of a series of announcements regarding sponsorship.

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Where has it been said it's not a cash deal?
The only figures I've seen on articles if £750k per year for 3 years.

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Quote: Him "Where has it been said it's not a cash deal?
The only figures I've seen on articles if £750k per year for 3 years.'"


Yeah just read few articles that say £750k per year. At first heard a lot of whisperings it aas £750k over 3 years. That's a very good deal IMO considering the position we out ourselves in.

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



Perhaps he should have kept his mouth shut but the wakey owner just said its not £750k a yr

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: loiner81 "As usual you brought RU into it so I pointed out the last RU WC was a total disaster by their standards showing the biggest drop in attendances in RU WC history (have NZ ever hosted a WC before?) You've come back with a load of excuses and moved the goal posts, again. So you'd expect the RWC in a country of 4.2 million to average the same as a RWC in a country of 60 million would you d040.gif I don't see how pointing out the different in size of potential audience is making an excuse or shifting goalposts.....but I do see you decrying the comparison between the 2 codes before trying to score points against the slower but infinitely bigger and more popular code icon_thumb.gif

Back on thread.

As the Wakefield owner has just apparently announced, the new sponsorship deal is not 750k a year.

Given Bradford get 300k a year for their shirts and naming rights to the Iconic Odsal, this deal with FU is looking anything but super. Get ready for emails from your clubs and adverts on club pages offering FU energy services.......kid of like the foxy bingo game changing deal from 2013.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



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You can call it what you want, but don't be under the illusion it's good deal. At £250k a year it's £343 a week per club better than the Stobart deal but £1,300 a week less per club than Engage.........The RFL press department will have been fielding calls all week from Journalists enquiring as to the details of the deal. If they were good, then we'd have read about them by now...they aren't!

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Two organisations not disclosing the financial details of a deal is hardly a shock.

I do wonder what people expect at times, Keith Chegwin knocking at the door of Red Hall with a massive cheque signed to the RFL perhaps.

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