See , you agree

Because Hunslet and Keighley are not big RL clubs and wouldn't be any more of a draw to casuals than clubs from anywhere else, I would think that the majority of people would have never heard of these places were it not for RL. Trying to compare the drawing power of these clubs to Wigan is just stupid.

I can't understand at all what you are moaning about here. You have constantly advocated, or at least claimed to advocate bottom-up expansion with teams working their way up from the amateur game. Now that this is happening, you are still continuing to complain? Not that this is really a surprise, you attempted to find fault with South Wales Scorpions last year despite them doing everything that you suggested a new expansion side should be doing and everything that you criticised Crusaders for the first time. You are a complete hypocrite.

You are correct , mention Hunslet or Keighley and RL immediately springs to mind , does that happen if you mention Northampton or Coventry ? , no , so you have answered your own question

I am happy to see new clubs coming in , I just didn't expect them to be like buses , I wanted the RFL to make sure that whoever does join the Championships can sustain a place in them , history is against us , how many have come in , done a season or two , moved around a couple of times , then disappeared ? , I want the RFL to help and encourage new clubs

But personally I think they are wrong in bringing 4 all at once , I also think they are wrong in dividing up the leagues 14/10 , I don't understand why it isn't an equal split , my only conclusion is they are going to change other things , ie the NRC

It will drastically diminish the attractiveness of Championship 1 to whichever clubs fans remain in it , primarily the heartland/established clubs , even the RFL seem to accept this , they are almost apologetic about it

+1

This is generally a good thing but I don't get why some like to make out that there is never a downside to anything the RFL does. No decision is ever perfect and there are always losers as well as winners.

I can't say that I noticed these large crowds for the visit of Bridgend [Crusaders], Gateshead or London [Skolars]. There seemed to be about the same number of home fans but very few (particularly in the case of Skolars) away fans.

If you mention Hunslet or Keighley to people who aren't RL fans, nothing springs to mind, because people don't know where these places are. Obviously Coventry and Northampton are not synonymous with RL because they are relatively big places that don't currently have professional RL clubs, only strong amateur teams. That's why they are expansion areas and not part of the heartlands. I haven't seen anything to suggest the new clubs won't be viable, the process of selection seems pretty sound so far and the new clubs will have a year to prepare. But if any of the clubs don't survive, then so what? It's not as if they were planted straight into Super League and cost the game a lot of money. On the other hand, we might see two of these clubs contesting the Super League Grand Final in 30 years, it's impossible to say and so I don't see what you are trying to achieve by sdeathriding everything that happens, especially when you now so few details. Putting expansion clubs at the bottom of the semi-pro pyramid is exactly what people have been calling for, and if some inbred moronic fans of heartland clubs don't like it because they think that they are not 'real' teams or whatever then forget them, who cares what they think.

Are you seriously suggesting that people in Yorkshire have never heard of Keighley?

Anyone who knows Leeds has heard of Hunslet whether they are RL fans or not.

That's as stupid as making out that Welsh people might not have heard of Llanelli if they aren't RU fans.

Yes, obviously people who are local to those places will have heard of them, that's not saying anything at all.

We were discussing RL fans , fans of clubs already in Championship 1

I notice you are now getting insulting and abusive , always happens in the end

In case, you haven't noticed, most clubs are along the M62 and so people in Oldham etc are well aware of Keighley and vice versa even if they don't watch rugby. It's only really the clubs named after districts (Hunslet & Swinton) and Fev that only locals would know about.

Without wanting to sound childish, you actually started it.

I’ve nothing against these teams coming into the league but they should be in a league of their own the winner of which would earn the right to play with the established teams in CC/CC1. This is all about expansion at all costs with no thought for the existing clubs or their fans.
Most casual fans of the existing clubs would have little or no interest in watching their local team play against the lower standard teams from the back of beyond.
Anyone with the smallest amount of RL knowledge knows where Hunslet and Keighley are, and they would be a much bigger draw to watch rather than a bunch of ex RU players from the midlands. None of these teams will compete at all with the existing Yorks, Lancs, Cumbria teams in CC1.
Welcome to CC1 the laboratory of Mad Professor RFL!

No , I told him to stop ' acting ' thick , this insinuates , he isn't actually thick , but is being so on purpose , ' Inbred moron ' on the other hand is insulting and abusive

This is proper expansion from the bottom up, considered and done properly.



You know this for a fact do you? Even if their team are winning close, competitive games? Because I don't.



You know this for a fact do you? Because I don't.



You do realise all this has come about off the back of exhaustive fans surveys and long discussions with all Championship clubs dont you?

I'm with you on this Wheels. It was annoying when teams got 'put' into SL and the Championships. These teams have started at the bottom and worked up and now they're into the bottom rung of the semi pro ladder.

Far less abrasive to other fans.
Far less expensive.
Far less risk.