look at the 2007 Australia schoolboys team and you'll probably find a pic of Kieran Foran. They went to school in Oz. That's how they qualify. Some aussies were well put out he chose to play for NZ having been an oz schoolboy. Clearly his nationality means nothing to them

yeah i know all about aussie schoolboy qualification.....

That's an oxymoron if ever I saw one.
Why not just have SL all stars replacing England then, if people are that desperate? 17 Antipodeans masquerading as an England team would be a complete and utter joke.

To quote Garry Schofield: "It may be in the rules but, morally, this is bulls***"

yeah but he's full of

He's a rugby player and i'm sure he's used to being targeted. He also has a chance now to play Test rugby but not for the nation he actually wanted to represent. You can come up with all the excuses you like about how he didn't know he qualified but the fact is he wanted to play for NZ( and not to long ago) finally realised he had no chance and when it came to pass he qualified to play for England he switched his allegience. Do you really think if NZ had named him in the squad he would of turned them down to play for England instead ?

I'd like to state, that i actually think he's a cracking player but this is a complete turnaround from what he wanted a few month ago.
If we had no quality at all at half back and we were really desperate i'd still feel uneasy using Rangi.

Your Tesco spiel was quite good though !!

Going by Nick Fozzards tweets, I don't think he is entirely happy about Chase playing for England, apparently when Faasavalu played for England, Fozzard pulled out.

The baised tribalism of rugby league fans is unreal!
After the Exiles game everyone keeps saying Cas are a one man team, stop Rangi and you stop Cas and all the forums were full of ive heard from a reliable source we are signing Rangi Chase.

Now that he has snubbed everyone it's, he's a NZ second rate regect an average player made to look good because of Danny Orr's experience...........pathetic!

You all keep quoting that interview where he says his boyhood dream is to play for NZ but i bet none of you have bothered to read the rest of the interview were he talks about how much he loves it here and that realisically if he is ever going to play for NZ he would have to go back to play in the NRL.

Rangi knows the NZ selectors pick their team from the NRL and the only kiwi's in England that they will consider are those playing for Wigan and Leeds that get MoM in Grandfinals, playing for a team in a second rate competition that hasn't made the playoffs he's not going to be on their radar.We all know he's good enough!

Well whats changed in the last few months?
With 2 years left on his contract and Superleague clubs making formal approaches to buy out his contract and NRL and Union clubs also showing their interest he had the world at his feet.
Cas got twitchy and offered their best deal to keep him until he's 30 and maybe beyond.
Unless Cas became a flagship superteam in the next four years he knows signing an extention means he can kiss NZ rep football goodbye.
He could have joined a top Superleague club or a NRL club or union all of which would have given him a much better chance of playing rep football but he chose to stay, live in Cas.
At a time when the best talent from clubs like Salford and Cas get poached by clubs who say you need to leave to further your career, Rangi has shown incredable loyalty.
So what if he asked McBanana if he could be considered for England, he hasn't broken any rules.

By all means start a debate on Internatonal rugby league selection policy, but to single out Rangi as a reject with no loyalty to England sounds like sour grapes and tribalism and you lose the debate before it even began.

I apologise for the poor spelling and grammar.

P.S he spoke to McNamara about playing for England before he signed his extension and weeks before NZ announced their squad!

What sort of dystopian wet dream of satan is this?

I like Fozzy and his tweets. But he also tweeted that he disagreed with someone born in England being selected if they grew up in Australia. On this issue, he's simply wrong

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Tom Briscoe
3. Kirk Yeaman
4. Jack Reed
5. Ryan Hall
6. Gaz Widdop
7. Rangi Chase
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Jamie Peacock
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Ben Westwood
13. Chris Heighington
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14. Gareth Carvell
15. Adrian Morley
16. Joel Tomkins/Jon Wilkin
17. Rob Burrow/Luke Robinson/Kevin Sinfield - we could put another forward on the bench and let Roby do the full 80.

Even if Rangi threw in his hat for England to help his visa app, surely that shows he wants to stay here rather than return home- which he could have done when his contract runs out.

Considering the community work he does and the fact that he has just won MOS, Rangi would not have a problem challenging any visa rejections or queries.

Top post Mrpurfect.

With Sinfield at 13, O'Loughlin at 16 and Burrows at 17, yes. That would be my starting line up at the moment though it will probably change.

Bring on the Four Nations!!

Lockers is out of the Four Nations. He needs an operation.

Cracking side that. The best side (on paper) we've had for a good while.