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| Quote: General Zod. "You've completely ignored my points.'"
You haven't actually made any, so it wasn't difficult. As for you saying the debts are currently around £1m how do you come to that figure? If the filed accounts show a debt of £3.16m and Hudgell says he lost another £450k last season that shows that Hull KR owe £3.6m. It also says that Hull KR have fixed assets of £1.5m , but unless the fixed assets are going to be sold to reduce the debt, your club still owes £3.6m, £2.2m of which is supposed to be repaid in the next 12 months.
I'm still interest in what fixed assets HUll KR could have which are worth £1.5m?
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| Quote: a.n Other "The only real improvement is the extention of the main standing area. The seating at one end of the ground is temporary. Is it any different to the corperate flats at Wakefield?'"
they spent a lot of money extending the pitch
and they arent finished yet
by the times its done it will be a tidy ground.
with BV theyd need to demolish it and start from scratch
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| Quote: El Chupacabra "You haven't actually made any, so it wasn't difficult. As for you saying the debts are currently around £1m how do you come to that figure? If the filed accounts show a debt of £3.16m and Hudgell says he lost another £450k last season that shows that Hull KR owe £3.6m. It also says that Hull KR have fixed assets of £1.5m , but unless the fixed assets are going to be sold to reduce the debt, your club still owes £3.6m, £2.2m of which is supposed to be repaid in the next 12 months.
I'm still interest in what fixed assets HUll KR could have which are worth £1.5m?'"
As my points are too complex for you to understand, you obviously are incapable of progressing the thread beyond where it was at the time you intervened. I myself didn't come to the £1M figure, it is simply relayed information.
Whilst I appreciate talking about Rovers' finances is a way of venting your bitter and twisted feeling towards the fact we finished 15 points above you last season, you're just gonna have to deal with it because there'll be more of the same next season I'm afraid...
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| Quote: General Zod. "As my points are too complex for you to understand, you obviously are incapable of progressing the thread beyond where it was at the time you intervened. I myself didn't come to the £1M figure, it is simply relayed information.
Whilst I appreciate talking about Rovers' finances is a way of venting your bitter and twisted feeling towards the fact we finished 15 points above you last season, you're just gonna have to deal with it because there'll be more of the same next season I'm afraid...'"
Not complex at all , Rover are 3 million in debt at the end of the season , at the moment they are not 3 million in debt because they have banked a ruck of season ticket , merchandise , corporate sales and probably sponsorship monies for this season , however as the season progresses they will go back to 3 million [ or possibly more ] debt , as they pay their wage bills for the season
It still equates to a 3 million debt , and as has been pointed out , as they dont own New craven Park they cannot use it as an asset in the accounts
What is very good is that the club are willing to put this information out into the open , it will hopefully help in their efforts to draw in some support to get the north stand project under way , as they need this to progress and to reduce their reliance on director input
Such openness from other clubs would be a positive
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| Quote: dally messenger "they spent a lot of money extending the pitch
and they arent finished yet
by the times its done it will be a tidy ground.
with BV theyd need to demolish it and start from scratch'" You are completely clueless. I live 200 yards from the ground and for you to say there has been massive improvements is foolish.
They have extended the east stand and thats it! The place is a ehole.
They also promised further extension by the start of the 2010 season, which, they won't do, and now there begging the council for money to get it done at all.
I couldn't give a monkeys about your anti-wakey agenda but using Rovers as a benchmark for any ground improvements is only making you look a fool.
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| Quote: General Zod. "As my points are too complex for you to understand, you obviously are incapable of progressing the thread beyond where it was at the time you intervened. I myself didn't come to the £1M figure, it is simply relayed information.
Whilst I appreciate talking about Rovers' finances is a way of venting your bitter and twisted feeling towards the fact we finished 15 points above you last season, you're just gonna have to deal with it because there'll be more of the same next season I'm afraid...'" Zoddy, my friend, please give this up. You sound as stupid as dally messenger!
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "You are completely clueless. I live 200 yards from the ground and for you to say there has been massive improvements is foolish.
They have extended the east stand and thats it! The place is a ehole.
They also promised further extension by the start of the 2010 season, which, they won't do, and now there begging the council for money to get it done at all.
I couldn't give a monkeys about your anti-wakey agenda but using Rovers as a benchmark for any ground improvements is only making you look a fool.'"
While not ' state of the art ' it isn't what you describe , and to be fair they have actually spent their own money on it , and you can actually see what the money has gone on , yes it is the stand extension [ who else has ' extended ' or built anything without funding in the last 10 years ]
And no matter what anybody's opinion of the golf stand it is still a hell of a lot better than what was there before
Personally I'd have said sort out the other end to stop the bloody wind first
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| Quote: General Zod. "As my points are too complex for you to understand, you obviously are incapable of progressing the thread beyond where it was at the time you intervened. I myself didn't come to the £1M figure, it is simply relayed information....'"
Stop talking rubbish and read the Daily mail article and take your blinkers off. They HDM didn't imply anything, they simply stated the facts on the accounts that were published that Hull Kr had at the end of that accounting period net liabilities of £3.16m, £2.2m of which to be repaid with 12 months. Your chairman had said for last season the club had lost another £450,000. As for your possible defamation example regarding dobson, it simply proves you don't have a clue.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Zoddy, my friend, please give this up. You sound as stupid as dally messenger!'"
Talking about Rovers' finances does not detract from the fact you finished 12th last year...
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| Quote: dally messenger "they spent a lot of money extending the pitch
and they arent finished yet
by the times its done it will be a tidy ground.
with BV theyd need to demolish it and start from scratch'"
The Craven Park pitch was a disgrace before, Wakefields pitch is one of the best in the league - so they dont have to invest in that. So other than extending the main standing area - what other improvements have they done that Wakefield havent?
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| Quote: General Zod. "Talking about Rovers' finances does not detract from the fact you finished 12th last year...
Unable to counteract the facts of rovers finances I see.....
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| Quote: a.n Other "The Craven Park pitch was a disgrace before, Wakefields pitch is one of the best in the league - so they dont have to invest in that. So other than extending the main standing area - what other improvements have they done that Wakefield havent?'"
What any club had before isn't really the point , Rovers have spent money since they gained a SL place , that cannot be denied , more needs spending , yes , hopefully they will find a way to do it , if they dont then their place in SL will be at risk
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| Quote: a.n Other "The Craven Park pitch was a disgrace before, Wakefields pitch is one of the best in the league - so they dont have to invest in that. So other than extending the main standing area - what other improvements have they done that Wakefield havent?'"
HKR - continual improvement in crowds, stadium etc
Wakey - 2 semi finals in 10 years and nothing else except empty promises. a fall in crowds last year despite making the semis.
looks like you were wrong when you said the only ground improvements were to one grandstand.
and HKR have the credibility when they make an artists impression of further ground improvements
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "You are completely clueless. I live 200 yards from the ground and for you to say there has been massive improvements is foolish.
They have extended the east stand and thats it! The place is a ehole.
They also promised further extension by the start of the 2010 season, which, they won't do, and now there begging the council for money to get it done at all.
I couldn't give a monkeys about your anti-wakey agenda but using Rovers as a benchmark for any ground improvements is only making you look a fool.'"
hey if you dont think craven park is good enough, they could always play at the KC, given its a community stadium
imagine what their crowds would be then.
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| Quote: Starbug "What any club had before isn't really the point , Rovers have spent money since they gained a SL place , that cannot be denied , more needs spending , yes , hopefully they will find a way to do it , if they dont then their place in SL will be at risk'"
I agree, but haven't Wakefield done just as much? The hospitalty flats at the end of BV are new(ish). So Wakey have invested since they have been in SL.
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