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Quote: Starbug "This makes you look a pillock , neither me or Marto has been patronising in our posts , you however have been several times ,

Does he , did you miss this post'"


Read your own posts sweetcheeks. You have made several feeble attempts at being rude. You're not much cop at that either icon_wink.gif

Marto castigates sugar daddies and runs cap in hand to a businessman to save his club. Comedy gold.

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Quote: Starbug "You have a short memory



This was your club not very long ago

But still no ideas's from you

Your contribution to your club and the sport is appreciated , if you ever feel like making a real difference , please do'"


Still can't admit you were wrong about our youth development. How pathetic. Nearly as sad as your attempt to criticise the Giants increase in support while scratching around for ideas to increase support elsewhere - you couldn't make this up. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Alexs Dad "Have I got this right?

We have a Huddersfield fan looking down his nose at the smaller clubs
Not right at all.

If you read the posts before knee jerking to a conclusion you would see that i hope Oldham pull through and I praised the way Batley is run as a club.

HTH

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Quote: Starbug "So you would rather they had dissapeared , I'm sorry but you really are coming across as a sad tosspot with a huge chip on your shoulder

Are you really that pathetic , all that Marto and myself have pointed out that not all clubs [ especially those not with a big profile or in a large town/city ] are in a position to pull in somebody of the calibre and financial clout of Mr Davy , you are very lucky to have him and I congratulate him on putting his money into RL [ as I have done to anybody who has done the same ] , it is a shame we all cannot find more like him


But that is life , and if you love the sport [ As Marto obviously does or he wouldn't do what he does ] you do your best [ as I did while I could and I now do to a lesser degree ] to support your club and the game , and at the moment Bramley are best served as a supporters owned club [ Marto knows that Bramley are never going to be the club they once were ] and he is willing to work hard to make it a success in what ever way that is

Perhaps one day you might have the integrity to do something similar'"
icon_lol.gif its amazing how the floaters pop now and again icon_wink.gif

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Quote: littlerich "He'll be looking back up when Davy pops his clogs. Can't be long now - he's 70 next year. Huddersfield will do a Halifax once he's gone - downhill faster than Franz Klammer.'"


Will he(?)look back up ? Klammer is in his mid 50s now, so not very fast then (maybe a skier from the last 20 years would have helped your case icon_wink.gif ).

If the Giants struggle after KD so be it. I supported them before and I will do so after. If they go bust - and many others will do so before the Giants - then it will hurt like hell and then life goes on.

I doubt any set of fans - perhaps bar a few - would oppose a wealthy backer saving their club and taking it forward. Yet on here a poster wrote 'sugar daddy = BAD'. While the same poster's club of choice was bailed out by a business sponsorship.

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Quote: snowie "icon_lol.gif its amazing how the floaters pop now and again
The most RL content of any post you have made..well done.

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Quote: Marsdengiant "Will he(?)look back up ? Klammer is in his mid 50s now, so not very fast then (maybe a skier from the last 20 years would have helped your case
Franz Klammer was a legend. I couldn't find a skier in the last 20 years who was fit enough to wax his skis. I used his name for effect to get across my point. You are right of course though - sugar daddy's are to be praised - they're bringing money into the game. I just dread what happens when they pack up but obviously this should not preclude them from being involved in RL.

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Quote: Marsdengiant "Still can't admit you were wrong.How pathetic.'"



Just like you won't say that you don't know how much of the money CC clubs get was from Sky. Does it hurt you so much just say them three words - "I don't know". but then again you never do have any answers do you? Like Starbug once said....your a poormans Smokey TA.

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Quote: Marsdengiant "Not right at all.

If you read the posts before knee jerking to a conclusion you would see that i hope Oldham pull through and I praised the way Batley is run as a club.

HTH'"


Oh there was no knee jerk, I've been reading the thread for a few days and was finding it all a tad ironic.

Smokey is Smokey, I rarely agree with him but he has his reasons, and in fairness to him a large amount of bragging rights. Huddersfield however. Well. Divert it as much as you like, you have certainly cast a repeated sneer at the lower clubs and particularly someone who probably does more for his club in a week than you will in a lifetime.

In actual fact, casting my mind back to when Leigh's Colts could have given Huddersfiled a game, I was going to ask Smokey if he went to the JP Cup Semi at 'Arena 84' and if he remembered just how bad a state the 'Barracuders' were in back then. On a par with, oh I don't know, Bramley maybe.

You may be too young to remember, which is fair enough, the dark days when you could have only dreamt of following Fev to Wembley, or seeing Fax win pots. Perhaps seeing Sheffields finest hour too, and how they were the big boys in the 'merger'. The fierce local derby being against Keighley or Batley. Or how a lack of facilities and finance at Dewsbury and Hunslet kept you in SL for numerous seasons despite a loss rate of something like 90%. I wont remind you how you got there in the first place either, old wounds and all that.

Enjoy your days in the sun, but don't look down at those you passed along the way with contempt, especially when you're so reliant upon one man in the first place.

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Quote: littlerich "Franz Klammer was a legend. I couldn't find a skier in the last 20 years who was fit enough to wax his skis. I used his name for effect to get across my point. You are right of course though - sugar daddy's are to be praised - they're bringing money into the game. I just dread what happens when they pack up but obviously this should not preclude them from being involved in RL.'"


Agreed.

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Quote: a.n Other "Just like you won't say that you don't know how much of the money CC clubs get was from Sky. Does it hurt you so much just say them three words - "I don't know". but then again you never do have any answers do you? Like Starbug once said....your a poormans Smokey TA.'"


Please show me where i said I know the exact amount each club gets. You are tilting at windmills (get someone with an education to explain to you what that means). Do you keep a book of starbugs quotes? Must be nice for you. icon_wink.gif

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Starbug, and others, can you not see that whatever you put on here this cowboy is going to come back with some clever a**e comment. The only way is not to respond and to completely disregard him. Let him think he actually does know everything and then he will get bored and move on to some other board. Every board as at least one of his kind who would rather lecture than debate.

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Quote: Alexs Dad "Oh there was no knee jerk, I've been reading the thread for a few days and was finding it all a tad ironic.

Smokey is Smokey, I rarely agree with him but he has his reasons, and in fairness to him a large amount of bragging rights. Huddersfield however. Well. Divert it as much as you like, you have certainly cast a repeated sneer at the lower clubs and particularly someone who probably does more for his club in a week than you will in a lifetime.

[Where is this sneering - other than in your head? I've said many clubs have had atrocious management / I think the solution to the woes of C clubs is unlikely to be roadshows / I do not have a problem with wealth and wealthy backers. There had been sneering. The dumb statement that 'sugar daddies'

In actual fact, casting my mind back to when Leigh's Colts could have given Huddersfiled a game, I was going to ask Smokey if he went to the JP Cup Semi at 'Arena 84' and if he remembered just how bad a state the 'Barracuders' were in back then. On a par with, oh I don't know, Bramley maybe.

[Nice history, do you have a point? I do not recall those invlved with the barracudas berating private investment and then chasing it..do you?]

You may be too young to remember, which is fair enough, the dark days when you could have only dreamt of following Fev to Wembley, or seeing Fax win pots. Perhaps seeing Sheffields finest hour too, and how they were the big boys in the 'merger'. The fierce local derby being against Keighley or Batley. Or how a lack of facilities and finance at Dewsbury and Hunslet kept you in SL for numerous seasons despite a loss rate of something like 90%. I wont remind you how you got there in the first place either, old wounds and all that.

['Remind' me of what you like. The notion of 'old wound' is infantile playground stuff. So the Giants could have gone out of business...no s**t sherlock. So what is the point being made?]

Enjoy your days in the sun, but don't look down at those you passed along the way with contempt, especially when you're so reliant upon one man in the first place.

[I enjoy myself, rain or shine, thanks. I do have contempt for inept managers and those hypocrits (taking a pop at people with money and then handing out the begging bowl). I think people who put money into clubs- and most know there will be no financial return - are to be commmended rather than sneered at.Apparently sneering at wealthy backers is okay with you? HTH]

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Quote: Geekay "Starbug, and others, can you not see that whatever you put on here this cowboy is going to come back with some clever a**e comment. The only way is not to respond and to completely disregard him. Let him think he actually does know everything and then he will get bored and move on to some other board. Every board as at least one of his kind who would rather lecture than debate.'"


Geekay do feel free to respond like an ostrich.... or send me to Coventry. Probably the best way for you to cope with someone who disagrees with you.

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Quote: bowes "They should have 1 semi-pro division of about 12-14 teams I think, but teams like Doncaster and Oldham do this every other season, I really lose all sympathy for the clubs (though still have some for the fans of course), so clearly should be either amateur or pay a small match fee.

They need to license the Championship and not let the likes of Doncaster, Oldham or Gateshead anywhere near til they're in better shape'"


I think there is merit in what you suggest.

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