just like the wigan period spoilt the game

The wigan period was a golden era for watching the game..88-94 is the last time we really truly got close to the Aussies It made everyone else lift up a level even though they couldn't really stop them winning the silver. I say that as a Leeds fan who were one of the also rans of that period.

Oh yeah and just about bankrupt the sport, causing the shift to summer rugby, let's go down that path all over again.
Toronto seem to be running their business model on a similar style.

We’ve rarely had a problem getting close to the Aussies. It’s beating them that's the problem.

I see that era, the 80’s and 90’s, as utterly disastrous for the sport. And I don’t really blame Wigan for it, I blame the sport as a whole. They all spent way beyond their means, spent on players, not on youth production, not on marketing, not on facilities, not on club infrastructure. The sport bankrupted itself in that era and has been scrabbling around desperately searching for short term cash ever since.

The sport got almost everything wrong in that era in my opinion.

No doubt Toronto. The game doesn't need another Northern English side in Superleague.

We have enough of those already.

A tough one to call..

If Toronto gain promotion, the troll collective on here will flooding the site with even more expansion guff.

If Fev get promoted, the troll collective will be up in arms about it and will be flooding the site with anti Fev guff.

Sod the Troll collective and lets flood the forum with actual fans of the game
Going to Toronto will be a one off event, whereas going to Fev, especially from Wakefield, will be a breeze.
Travel, Beer and accommodation (should you need it) will all be cheaper in Fev, a club with a rich RL history, in a proper (albeit small) RL town (villiage).

Back in the day the Boxing Day and New Year fixtures against Fev were excellent.
Lots of mates supporting both sides and a few beers afterwards, happy days

I realise that, even if they make it, they may struggle to sustain their place in the top flight but, I'd rather see Fev prosper, than Toronto, all day long.

Can someone explain to me why people wanting Toronto to win aren't real rugby league fans?

C'mon, embarrass yourselves...

Not at all, but I've read plenty of guff from the other side suggesting wanting fev to win is what's holding the game back !

If fev do the job it will be a phenomenal achievement considering the obstacles, not just playing 4 road games, not just going to France and Canada but look at that Toronto team, littered with SL and NRL talent.

I certainly don't wanna sound condescending towards fev, who have achieved many great things in years gone by in RL but this would be a dream come true for maybe 2 generations worth of fans.

Many years ago they were cruelly denied top flight RL, I hope they get their redemption on Saturday.

Everyone is free to support whoever they want.
Toronto being part of a European competition is frankly, a joke and personally, I dont believe it's sustainable in the long term.

One thing I do admire though, is the ability of Perez nd his successors to sell RL to new fans, which Toronto have done, very, very well.
However, travelling halfway round the world for weekly fixtures is just mad - end of story.

Everyone who watches and enjoys the sport are real fans and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
However, the days of being able to follow a side home and away throughout the season have become nigh on impossible and the game is poorer for it

I want Toronto out of the championship.

Featherstone got where they are due to Leeds dual reg. Although they have a great coach.

Fev don't stand a chance from the match officials though.

I'll enjoy a bet on Fev with a 12 points start on the coupon, and may the best team win, without any referee controversy

On this site, and in seriously media, it is far more the other way in terms of guff being spread.

I won't deny there are some fans of expansion who love to stick the boot in, but there is far less venom in what they say compared to the anti-Toronto groups.

Reading through this thread and some of the bile from so called fans of the game makes it clear what is holding the game back -and it's not a club from the other side of the Atlantic, or wanting a particular club to succeed; it's fans who spread hate within their own sport.

Really ?

Really what?