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| YES YES bring them all on
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| Quote maurice="maurice"We should progress with a mixture of support, enthusiasm and caution - I still remember a bloke playing keep ups with a ball at OT a few years ago. A N.American league would be brilliant but the first stop for this expansion is via SL, which could evolve to a Union in the Southern Hemisphere 'SUPER' type set up - first step is a 20 team and 2 division SL.'"
The only way that 2 divisions of SL can possibly work is if we were to have 2 conferences, East and Wast for the sake of argument and then the top clubs from each half competed at the end of the season.
Super League 1 & 2 sounds ok in theory but, SL 2 would just be The Championship by another name 
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| Quote knockersbumpMKII="knockersbumpMKII"I wonder if Dave Woods is going to eat his words now, not so long ago he was doubting that Toronto would even happen, his churlishness toward EP and after the interview basically throwing extreme doubt on it from all aspects (fans/sponsorship etc) shows you what a muppet the blovke is.
More RL teams wherever they are from is only good for RL, teams/towns that are bricking it and/or are critical know that they are under threat because they simply don't add enough to keep the sport going in the right direction if we stick to being an insular sport as so many would like us to be. and that would eventually be the death knell, not tomorrow, not even in 20 years but sticking to what we have is dragging us backwards at a rate of knots.
What EP has done and what others would like to do hopefully will pull the rug from under some including the robbers at red hall.'"
Add Gary Schofield to that list. His attitude towards Toronto was a disgrace.
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| Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Because he wants to eliminate from Super League the pathetic little pit and mill towns of northern England, which are of no benefit to the growth of the game.'"
You’ve not worded that well and will upset a few, but you’re correct in your main gist
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| On BBC Radio Manchester the other week on the weekly Thursday night RL show, the Manchester Rangers chairmen were on the show saying they have long term plans for Super League and have good/serious backers and even hinted on something saying “and you never know, if we ever get to that top level Manchester City might even get involved”
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"The only way that 2 divisions of SL can possibly work is if we were to have 2 conferences, East and Wast for the sake of argument and then the top clubs from each half competed at the end of the season.
Super League 1 & 2 sounds ok in theory but, SL 2 would just be The Championship by another name
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The key to a full time two divisions success is to get rid of the cap and introduce minimum spends, those unable or unwilling to make that financial commitment simply wouldn't be in it, that makes it very different to what we have now
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| Just imagine the scene, in like 30 years the super league grand final being played in north america, boston v wigan in front of 80,000.
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| I don't think the Americans will want to play for long against a load of no mark towns they've never heard of. Leeds might - might - be palatable, but no other English town or city with a current Super League club matters to anyone other than the people who live there. The Yanks will have heard of London obviously and no doubt Liverpool and Manchester too because of high profile football teams from those cities as well as bands like the Beatles. After that you're looking at Birmingham and then maybe the likes of Leeds and Newcastle. They won't have the slightest clue where Wigan, St Helens or Warrington are or be thrilled at the prospect of taking on their finest!
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| Quote knockersbumpMKII="knockersbumpMKII"What EP has done and what others would like to do hopefully will pull the rug from under some including the robbers at red hall.'"
I am a massive TW/EP fan.......but I suggest caution. With no freebies, beer tents, hot-dog shooting guns and unilateral assault on the media, London Broncos achieved 5,699 in season 1......before we get all get "moist" about north america, let's see how they fare in the next few seasons before breaking out the champagne.
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| Quote Dropkick Murphy="Dropkick Murphy"I don't think the Americans will want to play for long against a load of no mark towns they've never heard of. Leeds might - might - be palatable, but no other English town or city with a current Super League club matters to anyone other than the people who live there. The Yanks will have heard of London obviously and no doubt Liverpool and Manchester too because of high profile football teams from those cities as well as bands like the Beatles. After that you're looking at Birmingham and then maybe the likes of Leeds and Newcastle. They won't have the slightest clue where Wigan, St Helens or Warrington are or be thrilled at the prospect of taking on their finest!'"
In fairness, I don't think that many Americans would know much about Green Bay, Wisconsin, had it not been for the football team.
As long as the product is entertaining, I don't think the North Americans are overly bothered about the cities that the teams come from. And whilst most North Americans probably only know where London is, marketed properly, you could very easily sell teams like Wigan and St Helens to them - from what I've seen watching college football, they have a thing for romantacising about sporting history.
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| Quote Dropkick Murphy="Dropkick Murphy"I don't think the Americans will want to play for long against a load of no mark towns they've never heard of. Leeds might - might - be palatable, but no other English town or city with a current Super League club matters to anyone other than the people who live there. The Yanks will have heard of London obviously and no doubt Liverpool and Manchester too because of high profile football teams from those cities as well as bands like the Beatles. After that you're looking at Birmingham and then maybe the likes of Leeds and Newcastle. They won't have the slightest clue where Wigan, St Helens or Warrington are or be thrilled at the prospect of taking on their finest!'"
The same wrongheaded argument could be made for places like Wisconsin, Green Bay or Hamilton; plenty of people in the actual countries they are in would know or care nothing about them in principal - so that's hardly a barrier; a few weeks ago for example, two NFL games were played at Wembley, between 4 teams from places that the vast majority of Brits would know or care nothing about, with a combined attendance of 165,000.
I can't see any downside to a genuine effort to establish a North American League; they have a massive supply of college athletes, access to a ginormous and lucrative broadcast and advertising market, and an annoying habit of putting on a hell of a show. ESL should support their efforts by helping to fast-track some of these development teams into SL - by growing the numbers - not at the expense of existing clubs.
The longer term upside could be that people like Perez would eventually grow weary of dealing with amateur committee men like Big Nige, and maybe install some proper leadership that would actually take the sport forwards. I look forward to seeing Castleford Tigers take a knee during Sweet Caroline.
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| conferences are the obvious answer.
it works for the rugby union in aus/nz/sa
three 6 team conferences - play the teams in your conference twice and the other teams once.
lot's of local derbies - fans have fewer big trips away - etc etc
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