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| I don't know what tony Smith is on about. I've been to 24 out of a possible 29 Cas Tigers games and I've been royally entertained. I've also enjoyed most games on Sky this year.
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| Rugby union have changed their rules yet again so as to reduce the stop/start. They still have a long way to go. They changed the rules to legitimise 'feeding' the scrum, thete are quite a few die hards saying they might as well get rid of the scrum. That penalty kicks inside x distance should be banned that they want ball handling tries and all the other things RL has. In fact one commented they should go to 13 players and some agreed.
If you think everything in RU is rosy think again, on the field they still have major issues with concussions not to mention how much time is wasted/spent doing nothing.
Sure, off the field they've had professional people doing the business for decades, using the old boy network to grab a foithold and pushed on massively from there. THAT is the massive diff. We're run by corner shop Arkwright's and Delbert Trotter spuvs.
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| Quote knockersbumpMKII="knockersbumpMKII"Rugby union have changed their rules yet again so as to reduce the stop/start. They still have a long way to go. They changed the rules to legitimise 'feeding' the scrum, thete are quite a few die hards saying they might as well get rid of the scrum. That penalty kicks inside x distance should be banned that they want ball handling tries and all the other things RL has. In fact one commented they should go to 13 players and some agreed.
If you think everything in RU is rosy think again, on the field they still have major issues with concussions not to mention how much time is wasted/spent doing nothing.
Sure, off the field they've had professional people doing the business for decades, using the old boy network to grab a foithold and pushed on massively from there. THAT is the massive diff. We're run by corner shop Arkwright's and Delbert Trotter spuvs.'"
See. This is just complete fantasy that "they have a long way to go" England ru could put 4-5 teams out that are more skilful..fact. Let's just ignore NZ and the other 20 countries that play both codes because RU are head and shoulders above RL talent wise. But yeah, that leaves the east cost of Aus that is better than RU. 10 years ago RL was better to watch. These days RU is far more exciting to watch
Regards
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| Quote Tigerade="Tigerade"I don't know what tony Smith is on about. =#FF0000I've been to 24 out of a possible 29 Cas Tigers games and I've been royally entertained. I've also enjoyed most games on Sky this year.'"
That's because Cas have been the only entertaining team to watch really.
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| All I can say is, It's a great time to be a Hull FC fan, we have a team to be proud of at the moment, so I ain't complaining.
And a World cup at the end of the season is something to look forward to, I just hope we show faith in our own and don't pick any Aussies, but I don't hold too much hope on that.
The first thing I'd sort out in our game is that we all start playing with the same rules. Either a video ref at all games or none. You shouldn't have a league where some games are played with different rules. That would solve a lot of problems for a kick-off.
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| Quote thepimp007="thepimp007" The thing for me is look at the quality of the game from say 98-2007. The game for me was so much faster and I really think we had better players playing then than now. Yes the game is more even across the league which is fantastic but for me the end product isnt as good. We can't compete moneywise with the NRL and the longer it goes on the bigger the gap will become'"
This is very true. The NRL was previously owned (50% I think) by Fox Sports. When tv contracts were negotiated, they negotiated with themselves and ended up paying very little for the NRL.
Super League benefited from this attracting some of the best overseas players as we could beat what they could earn in the NRL. Just look at all the Kiwi internationals that used to play Super League, there are now none.
Fox Sports no longer own any share in the NRL, as a result tv revenue is massively up, and along with it the salary cap. We will never be able to complete financially with the NRL, the game over there is massive. That era is never coming back. Not only do we not have Kiwi internationals in Super League, we don't have Englands best internationals either. We just have to accept Super League will be a lower standard and do the best we can with it.
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| Quote giddyupoldfella="giddyupoldfella"
And a World cup at the end of the season is something to look forward to, I just hope we show faith in our own and don't pick any Aussies, but I don't hold too much hope on that.
The first thing I'd sort out in our game is that we all start playing with the same rules.'"
You want us all to play to the same rules, apart from the rules on international eligibility then.
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| He's right, compared to 20 years ago the spectacle on the pitch is boring, 26 robots who do the same thing week after week, in the same patch of grass, 1 or 2 apart, no flair players anymore cos everyone has to work to a set structure, plus wrestling and milking penalties have turned the game into a farce.
I never used to miss a live game on TV, nowadays i don't even know who's playing on the TV games.
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| Quote TheUnassumingBadger="TheUnassumingBadger"We are at the point now were Super League clubs are unable to match the salaries of 3rd and 4th choice NRL players. The standard of football and intensity of games is certainly worse now than it was 10 years ago.
I have been to about 7 live matches this year in SL, paying about £22 on average for a ticket. Compared with t20 cricket for around the same price or Premier League football for about £10 more, it's dreadful with regards to value for money. I love this sport and always have, so for someone like me to only get to 7 games all season and still feel like I've wasted a lot of that money, how are we supposed to attract new spectators?'"
I'd rather spend £22 to watch RL than any Premier League game.
Having said that, in terms of income/ sponsorship, we have dropped so far behind Union and the NRL, in a relatively short space of time, it's unlikely that we will ever catch up.
There needs to be some serious though on where the game is heading and how it intends to get there.
The new structure, was badly sold and although this season has had a real competitive edge, in both the Super 8's and Middle 8's, the wider public just dont get it and they struggle to understand the format and in terms of improving the "draw" of the sport, it has failed quite spectacularly.
Sky seem to have done quite well out of the sport but, they are still getting us on the cheap.
Maybe if Toronto prosper in the Championship, we should think about borrowing their publicity machine, which has done remarkably well to generate interest in a "new" sport over there.
Many SL clubs would be delighted with their supporter numbers and they've started from zero.
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| Some complete rubbish posted on this thread , the usual " well we had Bradford and we've ruined them " , no WE haven't , Bradford have ruined Bradford , and until Bradford council sort out the issue of Odsal , Bradford will never be " Bradford " again
' London ' ? , nobody's interested in London , so what do people want ? The RFL/SKY to buy and run London at 2/3/4 times the cost of anybody else ? ' will that make people in London interested in London ?
The structure ? , nothing wrong with the structure , it is cut throat yes , but sport IS cut throat , those best/luckyest/strongest rise to the top , those that learn and improve get better , those that don't lose out
Yes Aussie coaches coming to this country bringing with them their boring wrestling tactics have made the sport less attractive , solution , sort out the rules so accepted ' cheating ' is outlawed
Sorry Tony , if you've lost the love of the game , then leave , go and be properly bored in Union , you will be paid better , but bored to tears
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| Quote ' London ' ? , nobody's interested in London , so what do people want ? The RFL/SKY to buy and run London at 2/3/4 times the cost of anybody else ? ' will that make people in London interested in London ? '"
It might make large sponsors interested which may benefit the greater sport, but no keep your teams within a 4 mile radius.
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| Quote wire-quin="wire-quin"It might make large sponsors interested which may benefit the greater sport, but no keep your teams within a 4 mile radius.'"
It's a simple question wire-quin , how long do you require ? , and how much money ?
To produce a London based SL club that has a suitable ' home ' ( not necessarily own it , just have it available long term , say 20 years ) to play at and can draw enough home supporters to make it sustainable in your opinion ?
I'd say 100 million pounds investment over 15 years , does the sport have that , just for London ?
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