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Quote: moto748 "Well, he's all class, Ferres, isn't he?'"


Not as classy as Ben Flower.

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Is there a single thread on the VT that doesn't descend into a tit-for-tat?

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Another development- it appears our players were made to buy tickets to get into the ground. Unbelievable
keighleycougars.com/club-stateme ... -warriors/
Another development- it appears our players were made to buy tickets to get into the ground. Unbelievable
keighleycougars.com/club-stateme ... -warriors/


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Quote: duke street 10 "They are Queens Mk2. They play some good stuff at times i hear but love this notorious image, sadly i aren't surprised at what went on at Featherstone.

There used to be a video of a cup game they played at Sharlston a few years ago on youtube which just about sums the open age team up.'"


Video against Sharlston
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyNl7kOQD0U
Quote: duke street 10 "They are Queens Mk2. They play some good stuff at times i hear but love this notorious image, sadly i aren't surprised at what went on at Featherstone.

There used to be a video of a cup game they played at Sharlston a few years ago on youtube which just about sums the open age team up.'"


Video against Sharlston
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyNl7kOQD0U


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8 to 10 players filling in one guy on his own set of poop houses.

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That video (the facebook one v Keighley, not the one v Sharlston) doesn't show anything too dramatic and certainly doesn't confirm the involvement of spectators, as claimed on Keighley's website. I'm not for a minute saying there wasn't more that went on but it'll be hard for the RFL to determine how bad the events were if that's all they have to go on.

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I'd be pretty sure they'll be a ref report, perhaps independent observations from the stewards/police and submissions from the clubs involved, if any further investigation is required.

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Quote: shinymcshine "I'd be pretty sure they'll be a ref report, perhaps independent observations from the stewards/police and submissions from the clubs involved, if any further investigation is required.'"

They'll be a match video

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Fair enough, let's hope the authorities do what needs doing.

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Ban em. All of em involved. Ban the coaches. Ban the club officials. The club as a whole placed on warning. Any, even slight, disciplinary issues for violence in the next 10 years and the club will be banned from every league in the country.

It's well beyond time that plenty of amateur players, coaches and club officials are kicked out of the sport. They won't be missed.

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Quote: Him "Ban em. All of em involved. Ban the coaches. Ban the club officials. The club as a whole placed on warning. Any, even slight, disciplinary issues for violence in the next 10 years and the club will be banned from every league in the country.

It's well beyond time that plenty of amateur players, coaches and club officials are kicked out of the sport. They won't be missed.'"


Amen to that.

I wonder how many of those thugs are involved in the junior sections of their clubs; coaches, assistant coaches, dads, committee men? That culture is a big part of what's wrong with the community game, and weak oversight allows it to continue, such that some clubs, named in this thread, are well known for it, yet it continues unchecked.

It's time the community game was grabbed by the knackers and sorted out once and for all.

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Quote: bren2k "Amen to that.

I wonder how many of those thugs are involved in the junior sections of their clubs; coaches, assistant coaches, dads, committee men? That culture is a big part of what's wrong with the community game, and weak oversight allows it to continue, such that some clubs, named in this thread, are well known for it, yet it continues unchecked.

It's time the community game was grabbed by the knackers and sorted out once and for all.'"

Spot on!

If Nigel Wood would do this and only this he would've done the sport more good than anything since the split in 1895.

It's time for a purge.

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Quote: Willzay "Not as classy as Ben Flower.'"

I hope your not having a dig at Flower. He won us the game at OT, and the 2mins Hohiha played in that GF, were the best he played wearing the red vee

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Quote: Cross Hills Cougar "The RFL will need to fully investigate the appalling conduct of the Fryston players at Featherstone yesterday. They should treat this as a once in a lifetime watershed moment and move to stop violence in RL for good. Yesterday at Featherstone there was a simmering undercurrent that Fryston were poised for a brawl. What eventually took place was ghastly. Probably what was even more grotesque was Fryston's on field team celebration after the hooter despite having lost and being knocked out of the cup. It was as if they were saying we planned to cause a brawl. and isolate one of their players. and beat him up. and we succeeded 100%. As "Him" often says, this feeling that violence is not far away holds back the grassroots growth of the game. It doesn't matter if kids first learn skills at a RU club. If they could try amateur league, many would love it and stay. Skills are needed and physical resilience and some toughness and that can be appealing. But for most the thought of Saturday night type pub brawl violence is not. At EVERY level of the game the RFL should introduce a long term zero tolerance policy NOW - anybody guilty of deliberate pre-meditated violence, mainly punching but also head butting, kicking etc should receive an automatic 12 month ban from the game. Only then will RL grow and be seen as a skilful, physically demanding but ultimately safe and enjoyable sport to play.'"


In addition, I should have said that the amateur game ethos/mentality of "One in, all in" has to be eliminated. All amateur teams need to know that, if any team is deemed to have adopted and used a 'one in, all in" policy during a match, then EVERY PLAYER in that team will be banned for 12 months.

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Until the RFL, BARLA and the various regional bodies get their act in gear, you've no chance of fundamental change.
Even the most basic of controls of the players who play for a team is a shambles. I could sign on for a team under any name I chose, there is no ID check, the only issue is I wouldn't be insured if I were to get injured whilst playing under a falsely. There are players out there, signed on under false names - again from my own team, one lad has played for 4 teams in the last 12 months (helping out mates at other teams when they've been short and we didn't have a game), whilst only legitimately signed on for 1.
Then depending on which league you're in, they use ID cards to check pre-game, but these checks are completed by a representative of eAch club (if done at all) and are paid little attention. Also, the cards are actually plastic wallets that can be cut open from the back and put anyone's photo in.

Starting right at the beginning, there needs to be a better vetting process of players actually signing on, ID cards should be mandatory, and should be hard plastic with photos embossed on them to prevent tampering, and it should be the referee who checks the cards against the team sheet. It's real basic stuff, but until you've got proper control over who actually is taking to the field of play, anything else is pointless.

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