Tomkins, Ellis, Graham, Roby, Reed.

Tomkins
Roby
Graham
Burgess
Hall

Tomkins
Burgess
Ellis
Roby
Graham


Graham will soon move up the list when the NRL makes him an even better player. Burgess and Ellis are above Roby and Graham simply for that reason, they have proved they can succeed in the best league in the world to become top players doing it week in week out. Tomkins is top because he is Sam Tomkins.

"Burgess and Ellis are above Roby and Graham simply for that reason"???

Graham made more impact that Ellis in the four nations in my opinion, and a choice between the two I would pick Graham.
Id say Graham is well and truly up there with the best already.
Be interesting to see how he gets on in the next couple of years.

Michael Worrincy and Luke Burgess should be on the list simply because they play in the NRL!!

Spot on, in any order.

Not in the top five list but if Luke Burgess continues his level of performance from last season he'll be in the England reckoning.

The fact we have no half back consistantly mentioned speaks volumes.

This though toss between roby & jammer

No one's mentioned O'Loughlin.

For me, like Westwood, he's a guy who can move his game up to international level with little disruption.
I do wonder whether having him and Sburgess in the squad would have helped when the likes of Thaiday and Gallen started getting on top of our pack in the Final.

I think we missed O'Loughlin massively in this tournament and having him and Burgess in over say, Heighington (who was very disappointing imo) and Wilkin (had a decent 4N but not in same class as Lockers or Burgess), we would have had a pack that was able to deal with Thaiday/Gallen etc a lot better.

It is difficult to mention him as one of England's best players though when he has played so little for them due to end of season ops. As long as he's fit he could be a massive player for us in next year's world cup though.

Felt a bt dissapointed with Ellis, he played well in all the latest matches, but I expected a world class performance from him especially as he,s had a good few seasons in the NRL. An injured Graham put in much better performances than Ellis. So for me in order
Graham
Tomkins
Roby
Hall
Reed

The problem is that we have about half a team (maybe more if everyone is fit) of real quality. We have a number of other players that can 'do a job', but against Australia that's not enough - especially at halfback.