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| Quote Linebreaker="Linebreaker"I know this has been done to death over the years and I know it won't change anything but I just wanted to voice my own personal disgust at the absolutely scandalous lack of promotion coverage for the undoubted biggest game of the autumn period in this country - England versus Australia Rugby League International.
I waited with trepidation whilst watching the "sports section" on the BBC this morning on the national news, to see if things could get any worse which I foolishly believed it couldn't; it did.
Nothing, zilch, diddlysquat. Not even a single solitary sentence.
Oh yes they found enough time to talk about "Rugby" (who do the Rugby Union think they are trying to claim the name?). The fact that Donald Duck and friends are lining up for the England Managers job. Then an article about some obscure Union cup played last night between a previously (to me) unheard of foreign team.
"Rugby" League - nothing.
Last week on the morning of the game we had even rounders (yes rounders!) in front of us in the pecking order.
Complete disgrace and totally disrespectful to "The" greatest game.
Rant over but who do i complain to? If I could start an on-line campaign I would!'"
I contact Mike Bushell this morning (chap from BBC morning sport prog) about the coverage or lack of. He has informed me that the preview of the game is on tomorrow (sat) morning and he also mentioned that the choosing of an Aussie ref 'needs to be looked at'. I mention that a point for neutrals has to be sam Tomkins as this would appeal to many watchers as well as the game itself. If only Sam was a tennis player or a sprinter; he'd be a world superstar.
TWEET ME: Antwigan
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| Quote Dunbar="Dunbar"Slightly off topic from the BBC but still media
I read the free ‘Sport’ mag they hand out in London (maybe elsewhere) a few weeks ago before the 4 Nations started and they had some bit about it feeling a bit like ‘after the Lord Mayors show’ of the RU World Cup etc etc
Today the piece was all about how McNamara’s men had beaten the world champs (and in more style than the soccer lads bored the Spanish into submission at Wembley). The best bit was about the League boys putting the feel good factor into English rugby after the English debacle in the World Cup... made my day'"
Great post this thankyou.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Direct action is in order. Burn the local Union club house down.'"
Got tried at Orrell, but for entirely different reasons...
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| And on another note, Radio 2 mentioned the World Trampoling Championship earlier this week in the sports news. Bizarre.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"It's reflective of rugby league's place in the national sporting psyche - don't blame the Beeb for simply reflecting it in their sports bulletins.'"
Don't agree here. There is and always has been a condescending attitude to RL from the hierarchy at BBC.
Considering how little national media coverage we get, it's amazing just how well placed within the nations sporting psyche RL is.
Now the sports desk has moved to Salford, especially if Salford themselves start to do something, hopefully, we will get more of shot. They definitely owe it to us.
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| Quote Ovavoo="Ovavoo"[uDon't agree here. There is and always has been a condescending attitude to RL from the hierarchy at BBC. [/u
Considering how little national media coverage we get, it's amazing just how well placed within the nations sporting psyche RL is.
Now the sports desk has moved to Salford, especially if Salford themselves start to do something, hopefully, we will get more of shot. They definitely owe it to us.'"
I don't think thats true.I would say the attitude towards rl only began when sky came in and financed SL and then the situation was made worse when RU went pro.
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| Quote j.c="j.c"I don't think thats true.I would say the attitude towards rl only began when sky came in and financed SL '" Not sure if that is the case or not but if it was it is revealing too. There was that Five Live hatchet job a decade or so back which involved some Sheffield student's university thesis but tied in with that I well remember a top BBC bod's comment "well Rugby League has sold its soul to Sky".
And that sums up to me the mentality - conscious or not - amongst some at the BBC: other sports negotiate TV deals; Rugby League "sells its soul".
It's a short reverse step to understand the original thought - that Rugby League should know its place, that Rugby League should be grateful for what it gets, that Rugby League isn't a sport which can be considered or should be treated as mainstream.
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| TBH in the 1970s (OK, I was a kid and my memory isn't that brilliant AND I lived in the BBC North area), but I seem to remember that RL was a staple of BBC Sport.
They used to broadcast matches from the County Cups, Player's No. 6 Trophy (which became the Regal Trophy), Challenge Cup and Premiership Trophy. These were spread throughout the season and action seemed to be on "Grandstand" a lot of the time. There was also the BBC2 Floodlit Trophy which was midweek (Tuesdays?) where you got a live second half and some highlights.
However, the sporting focus of the country seems to have changed and football (which I really don't find at all interesting) became the focus of all sports reporting about the time that Sky started up. I don't understand why, because the reasons seem a bit unclear, but it's now got to a stage where even during the off-season, sports reporters want to talk about football than Cricket, RL or anything else. And if you live away from "t'north", there's very little chance of reading (or hearing) much about RL via the mainstream press.
However, because of the internet, we can actually make a difference by positively contributing to the internet world, such as forums like this, but also the BBC's forums and e-mailing and tweeting the BBC's coverage programmes, showing that there's a good, strong following out there who are passionate about the sport. For me, it was refreshing to hear Nicky Campbell talking positively about RL on 5 Live yesterday morning at a time when I reckon the audience would have been very large (it was about 8.15). When the BBC completes its move to Salford, we may begin to look a bit more mainstream to them and get broader coverage.
Only time will tell. I reckon, though, if more of us take time to positively contribute to the BBC's programmes, it can only do the sport good.
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| Well Colin Murray just gave a big thumbs up for England and was bigging up our game and its players saying they're "Straight forward, honest and modest". I get a sense amongst the real sports fans i.e. not the golf/RU fairweather sects, that people want us to achieve not for the country but for the sport and the people that participate in or follow it. That's a nice feeling to have.
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| Dear Senior BBC executive,
I wish to register a severe and harsh complaint regarding your lack of blanket coverage of my sporting event happening in three days time. I am of course referring to the Four Nations Rugby League final although you'll need to be looking this up some time soon as apparently you don't know what it is as you haven't mentioned it on this particular day and I know some radio hosts did but that's not good enough.
I note that you spent an inordinate amount of time discussing a murder, which effected only one person directly and maybe seventeen affected by proxy, whereas my sporting event affects many more than one plus seventeen. You then had a segment called "the weather", which seems to get an inordinate amount of time given that it happens every day. It seemed to follow the exact same vein as yesterdays "weather" too. Perhaps you could cut this until a change happens? "This week will be mostly drizzle, but I'll let you know if this changes, or look out of a window instead. Here's the rugby league with Clare Balding", something like that.
There was then to my shock and anger a segment about foreign politics. Something called Greece something something Germany. Why oh why do you concentrate on things abroad rather than things happening in this country? I raised this issue regarding a famine in Africa last year and received no reply. The Four Nations is happening in this country you morans.
Now whilst it would be too much to ask to get leading story status on your programme for a week (would it?) but then we come to the sport bulletin. You only ever seem interested in Association Football. Is this really the be all and end all of current sporting status with the public in this country? It turns out it is but should it be? A bunch of hair obsessed diving cheats should not be discussed with the same reverence as men such as Sean Long and Sam Tomkins.
And then you bring in the Vichy government sponsored, old tie wearing Rugby Union, a sport only monitored by monocle wearing facists called Rupert Smythington Smythe. This is an appalling outrage. John Inverdale has all the class of Alan Partridge, and whilst I appreciate this, and his jumpers, and 1970s hair styles (why oh why we went away from this I will never know) I get the distinct impression the man doesn't like rugby league.
Why do you not give rugby league the respect it deserves you snotty nosed, snooty, disgraceful B****** C*** F******s. Until you engage with us in a respectful, meaningful way I will not only boycott the BBC for ever (except Bargain Hunt of course) but I will also protest outside your house, try to get you fired, open a petition with the united nations to have you executed and tell walkers to stop selling you smokey bacon crisps (and I know this is your favourite flavour as I happen to be stalking you so don't deny it.)
I will do the above and more unless you answer the ultimate question.
Why don't you like us?
Every bit of coverage seems begrudging, however small. Why is this, you imbecile?
Yours faithfully.
A disgruntled viewer.
P.S. Any chance of getting in the audience for Question Time? I love that show.
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