Didn't Sculthorpe win both his MOS awards playing stand off for Saints? To me loose forward was his 2nd poition.

Oh and I think Scully P was a far better player than Pan face.

I think it is soley the fact that DL didn't play against Gary Hulse that he hasn't made this list. I'm sure he feared the reputation of Hulse

Lockyer is picking the best he faced. On that basis its no surprise Farrell isn't there as he never impressed against Australia, same as Radlinski who was a flimsy turnstile against them. Is Lockyer expected to take into account games and competitions he wasn't involved in? Wigan fans need to realise that there is a rugby league world out there beyond their club.

I understand all fans are guilty of bias when it comes to who is better, and who should play for England etc.. but come on
the Scully v Farrell thing is ridiculous.

Farrell was a great player, but Scully was one of the best in the world on his day

I aren't really questioning who was better between the two, I'm more questioning him not being in Lockyer's top ten international opponents. I'd have thought the GB captain for most of the time he played them (as well as a former Golden Boot winner) would have featured in it.

Forgetting Farrell for a minute.

two out of the top three are:

Cunningham
Sculthorpe

for the remaining space in the 3 leaves:

Andrew Jones
Darren Lockyer
Stacey Jones
Shane Webcke

A slight flaw to your arguement there. Three of that four, I wouldn't swap for Cunningham or Sculthorpe.

It really seems some people on here don't rate Farrell, purely because he played for Wigan, whilst others have a big opinion Sculthorpe because he played for saints. Scully was the headline grabber, Farrell was the driving force.

I don't disagree with his number 1 at all. Sculthorpe's one of the best players to come out of this country and was as tough as a prop. He hit hard and could unlock any defence. He was wanted by a lot of teams down under and would have been successful where ever he played. IMO, he is probably the best British player I have seen since I started watching the game as a 10 year old in '94. He would walk into this team and probably make us a lot closer than we are to the Aussies and this is apparently the best team we have had in some time.

Ill go with Lockyer's judgement on this and i'm a Leeds fan

Good to see that Lockyer states what everyone outside of Wigan have always known, that Andy Farrell was overated and Sculthorpe was far far superior.

Only if they all had their day at the same time.

Johns, for instance, had seasons when he couldn't get on the pitch.

Im not suggesting both players where in the top 3 at the same time though.

I know, but I think what the poster's point was that there would have been times where it would have been plausible to say "that" about either of those players, not particulary that they were two of the top 3 international players for the period ninety something to two thousand and something.

And you heard this statement where??? Or are you just making things up??