One things that is for sure is that we are building well and have looked better this year. I honestly think we have caught up a little during this competition. Not sure if our half backs will be the same next year but apart from that most of this squad will be around next year which is good. As for Saturday can we play as well as at Wembley, and can we catch them on an off day? I dont know, but there is genuine hope for the future.

It would be massive for RL in this country for England to get a win, with the 2013 WC coming up nothing is more important than some success for the national side.

It would be a very hollow victory for me. Picking players like Chase and Heighington devalues the national team and only goes to show how weak our game really is. I have no interest in the result and won't even be watching.

Are you Nick Fozzard?

What nonsense. Every other nation in pretty much every other sport has done it for decades.

Oh right, well that makes it okay then.

Including Austrailia Rugby League.

Chris Heightinton had been continually overlooked for rep honours in Aus, something that was considered a bad decision by many. He decided that if the Australia selectors didn't appreciate him, then he'd switch to England - What's the biggy?
I beleive this is similar to how Kevin Peterson ended up playing for England cricket.

If Australia lose to a side containing a player they've continually rejected, how is it hollow? If we'd somehow paid Thurston, Lockyer, Gallen and Inglis to swap allegence, then ok, but that's not the case. There certainly doesn't seem to be any lack of commitment from him.

Besides, if we'd had Burgess and O'Loughlin fit, there's a good chance he wouldn't have made the 17.

What's a "complete myth"?

A myth is an unproved or false collective belief that is used to justify a social bias.

Therefore a complete myth is one that is 100% unproven or false.

Australia by 16 i'm afraid...Lockyer's last game they all will be firing for his send off



Still we can give ourselves a small chance if we give him & Thurston less space to work.

This is the best chance that we have had in my memory watching RL!

the team is good enough. and the difference is 'this time' is that they know they are.

We should have beaten them at Wembley, all be it for two game changing decisions and i think we would have done.

NZ should have been down to 11 men at the weekend, and we still hammered them with 13.

This is the time people on here started looking forward and not back!

Get to the final and support the boys to a historical win. i recon well do em...

I shouldn't have expected any better than that I suppose.

You know I'm right.