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Quote: mleeds "And I'm amazed Saints haven't yet found an academy product (or existing player) capable of out-playing them as a pairing in a Grand Final, but there you go...'"


Why? It's about 17 players (And a dodgy video ref) not just the half backs.

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Quote: Saddened! "Why? It's about 17 players (And a dodgy video ref) not just the half backs.'"




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Quote: Saddened! "Why? It's about 17 players (And a dodgy video ref) not just the half backs.'"


Fair point, McGuire's 2 tries in 2008, in a game that ended 24-16, were pretty insignificant... And as for 2007, don't even get me started on how the video ref changed that one... disgraceful!

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Quote: ROBINSON "When was that? I can't remember him EVER playing well for England, or GB for that matter.'"


Such triviality never hampered Andy Farrell's International career ....

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Quote: AdmiralHanson "Such triviality never hampered Andy Farrell's International career ....'"


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Quote: Saddened! "Why? It's about 17 players (And a dodgy video ref) not just the half backs.'"


dear me, and you say it's not about who you support. more faces than a broken pot

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Quote: G1 "Yes, but that means no place for young Tom Briscoe, surely the cause of Wellsys' bile.'"

Not at all. Stop looking for reasons "in between the lines" to disagree with me and look at the actual things I've said.

The whole club bias crap is doing my head in when talking about international RL. You can't comment on a player without someone from his club having a paddy. (Specific mention to the Leeds moron who decided to swear and abuse everyone that didn't agree with him about Leeds players).
Can we get back to talking about England and not the clubs these players play for now, please?

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Eastmond and Tomkins in the halves, Smith to full back, Peacock back to prop. Crabtree and Westwood to retain their spots in the 17

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Quote: Trinity Till Death "Eastmond and Tomkins in the halves, Smith to full back, Peacock back to prop. Crabtree and Westwood to retain their spots in the 17'"


Who does that leave in the centre though if you've moved Smith?

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Quote: Wellsy13 "Who does that leave in the centre though if you've moved Smith?'"


No one, just like Saturday..

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If it ain't broke, don't fix it, so Hall, Shenton and Ellis to stay on the left. Briscoe to stay at fb, Tomkins to retain a place in the halfs with Mcguire or Myler (an either/or, for me - I'd prefer Brough, if he was available). On right, move Peacock to prop, play Westwood in SR, Eastmond at centre and whoever out of T.Briscoe/Fox/Smith who has the most confidence/form left.
The pack wasn't bad. With Westwood starting, maybe put Wilkin on the bench in place of Graham/Morley (with Burgess starting), for balance???? Crabtree to keeping his place on the bench. Or play Burgess at LF, Sinfield at hooker, with Roby filling Eastmond's spot on the bench?

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The major changes have got to be taking Peacock out of the second row and the defensive line down the right.

The rest is much of a muchness. Brisoe or Smith at full back isn't going to be a major change, but if you take Smith out of centre who goes there? Eastmond isn't the answer for more than 10-15 minutes, they'll just target him and run over him. Smith there with the cover of Westwood in the second row defending next to him would be a better option.

I'd leave McGuire and Tomkins as the half backs, Myler in his last two games hasn't shown as much as Tomkins did in the second half against the Aussies and the consistency may do them good.

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Quote: Billinge_Lump "The major changes have got to be taking Peacock out of the second row and the defensive line down the right.'"


Peacock didn't defend on the right when he was on the field in his first spell, Sinfield defended one in from the centre on that right hand side where you would expect the second row to be, with Peacock defending more centrally.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Peacock didn't defend on the right when he was on the field in his first spell, Sinfield defended one in from the centre on that right hand side where you would expect the second row to be, with Peacock defending more centrally.'"


Then I'd move him out of the way, I thought Sinfield had a poor first half in general, he looked much better at dummy half swapping with Roby in the second. His positional change also seemed to spark up McGuire who looked better in the second half combining more with Tomkins.

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Quote: Mild Rover "If it ain't broke, don't fix it'"


But it is broken. Very, very broken, to the point that it's irreparable with the tools we have available.

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