Never felt the need to stick a shoulder into a face, nor knees into a player on the floor, lead with the elbow or any other cowardly cheap shock tactics

Im bought into big shot tackles into the chest that smash players back and give the tackler the PTB reset advantage.

So how about a player steps inside you or changes his body angle at a speed that you cant adjust? The tackle is still legal, catches the guy on the shoulder but then does catch the head?

That's not what happened though is it. It planted straight in the face, he didn't step or duck right the second before, it was reckless and deserved a red, no more, no less and let's just move on

Wilde by name wilde by nature-

Players that get stepped do adjust hence why they generally land the tackle with a flailing arm.

The Frog was upright & running straight and it would seem in your eyes deserved to be hit in the face with a shoulder and knocked back into Paris. Why didnt Moa just bend his back extend his arm bang the shoulder into the chest and clamp the player as he knocked him backwards-A bit like what the books and coaches sometimes try to suggest. anyway.......

Nice summary

Yup, the cretin/clueless point of view summed up perfectly.

Ooh you're a charming little cherub, aintcha?



That's rich when all we've seen from you is dull, humourless one-liners. I suspect you're desperate to stamp your flawed opinion on others but aren't really sure how to go about it, plus you've nothing to back it up. I also suspect you've never actually played the game with grown-ups and don't really understand what goes on.

If you eventually accumulate sufficient grey cells to offer an actual opinion backed up by some evidence, I may take you a little more seriously than my itchy left gonad.

Mr Lister doesn`t like Hull,so if the club managed world peace he would still find some fault.

That's a "no, I can't form my own opinion", then?

Boring.

Good shoulder charge, wasn't it?

He does seem to be a bit of a prat.

I'll leave him to it. He's clearly enjoying himself.