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| Considering part of the reason for the Magic weekend is to help expand the game and to hopefully get a Championship club in Scotland having a match in an almost empty stadium is a good indicator of what we would end up with , so from that point of view it should be seen as a success
It will be interesting to see how well attended the Championship version is later in the year
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| Quote: Saddened! "The Saints players should have handled their distain for the non-event a bit more professionally, but you can bet they weren't the only ones who didn't want to be there.'"
Does the job description for 'Professional Rugby League Player' include playing scheduled rugby league matches? If you don't like the job, get another. I expect he'll turn down an opportunity to play for England anywhere outside the M62 corridor then - don't want to travel or anything awful like that.
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| Quote: Saddened! "The attendance alone means it should be scraped '"
Why? Has it got a growth on it or something?
Personally, I'd say an attendance of 59,749 – and yes it includes people who attended both days because, well, they attended both days – is not too bad in "The worst recession since the Great Depression of the 1930s" as everyone keeps telling us. rlThe organisers seem happy as wellrl.
I didn't go this year for a number of reasons, but one thing I know from the last two years rlIt's a good festival of rugby leaguerl, with the chance to mix with fans from across the SL (and championship clubs) and even people new to the sport and watch games you normally wouldn't get a chance to.
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| Quote: Starbug "Considering part of the reason for the Magic weekend is to help expand the game and to hopefully get a Championship club in Scotland '"
errr - no it's not. Though if it was, 6,000 ticket sales in Scotland wouldn't count as a 'disaster' – except in the world of professional Micawbers
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: tb "errr - no it's not. Though if it was, 6,000 ticket sales in Scotland wouldn't count as a 'disaster' – except in the world of professional Micawbers'"
If you're going to quote at least quote all the relevant parts
See below
Quote: tb "Considering part of the reason for the Magic weekend is to help expand the game and to hopefully get a Championship club in Scotland having a match in an almost empty stadium is a good indicator of what we would end up with , so from that point of view it should be seen as a success
It will be interesting to see how well attended the Championship version is later in the year '"
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: pie eater and proud of it "I am neither really for or against MM, however if the event was 'dry' I bet no-one would turn up.
It's just a 2 day drinkathon.'"
Well we are trying to follow RU arent we
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| Quote: gateaux "Where you in a different City to me? I was shocked how little was known locally about what was going on. The only ones I saw talking rugby league were the fans who had gone up for the weekend I certainly wasn't convinced any publicity had been done for the event locally we were asked on a number of occasions what was going on, or which union sides were playing!
Personally I think Cardiff was a much better choice for the weekend and would have liked to have seen it stay there for a few more years before moving on to allow it to properly develop.'"
Now that suprises me. I lost count at the number of shops with magic adverts. Even down in Leith where we were all the locals we talked to had heard it was on and were interested in it. We even spoke to some locals who went to the games and were loving the atmosphere ( it was just a shame they were Quins fans )
I'd take Edinburgh over Cardiff anyday of the week it has soooooo much more going for it.
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| Quote: gateaux "It seemed to me Cardiff was a hell of a lot more prepared for the event a lot more locals in wales seemed to know what was happening from the people we spoke to we encountered a lot more locals in Scotland who didn't know what was happening, the only ones who seemed to be aware were wearing club colours which would suggest they were fans of the sport already who live in Scotland rather than converts to the sport.
The stadium in Cardiff is much better location wise and the fact the roof closes if poor weather is a massive bonus. If it had rained this weekend then it would have been a massive washout with very little to do around the ground (most people when they headed up that way seemed to be sat outside the stadium on the grass or stood in the beer garden of one of the few hotels with bars opened) and the pitch wouldn't have coped with 7 games.
Getting to and from the stadium - especially after the last game of the day - from the City Centre wasn't easy, why hadn't shuttle buses been put on to help the fans getting away? There seemed to be nothing more than the normal bus service which couldn't cope with the volume of people wanting to use it meaning most people seemed to end up walking the 40 mins back to the city centre, again its a good job the weather was dry!
Add to that the fact that the whole city centre seemed to be being dug up, and the race taking place on Sunday morning it just seemed to me that the whole thing was badly thought out when it came to moving the event.
I enjoyed the weekend but I personally am not convinced that Edinburgh is a better choice than Cardiff was.'"
I agree we were lucky with the weather which did help massively. Also I think that next time you might see special buses being put on as I think it's the main minus point which has been mentioned to the RFL. However even with all the tram work thats being done Edinburgh still managed to have a transport system in place to put most other british cities to shame. And as for the run unless you went up to the citadel you wouldn't have even known it was on but for people walking around loking like they've just been cooked in tinfoil.
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| Quote: Fungus The Muffin Man "Now that suprises me. I lost count at the number of shops with magic adverts. Even down in Leith where we were all the locals we talked to had heard it was on and were interested in it. We even spoke to some locals who went to the games and were loving the atmosphere ( it was just a shame they were Quins fans
I'm surprised as well. The only people we heard wondering what was going on were tourists rather than locals.
As for the bus services I thought they put on a great service personally. We never waited longer than 10/12 minutes which given there was a hell of a lot of people waiting was pretty good. The drivers were also great at directing people to where they wanted to be and, if you couldn't get on their bus, letting you know when the next one was.
The facilities at the Park and Ride were great, lots of spaces, well signposted, spotless toilet facilities and frequent services. The chap behind the counter was a bit over-whelmed when a whole load of people turned up earlier than he was expecting the fans to be arriving, but he simply got on the phone and asked for extra buses and someone to help him with the tickets.
Obviously the weather made a massive difference and I'm finding it hilarious people are whinging about it being cold in the shade of the stadium. Although it appears you cannot win - I had a Saints fan whinging to me in the loos that no-one told her it was going to be warm and she only had long-sleeves and jumpers. I thought she was kidding, but she was actually complaining so some people will never be happy.
The prices at the catering outlets are steep, but they were equally steep in Cardiff with much less choice. The range of food was excellent imo and it's always going to be over-price at catering vans, it's the same at every event.
The entertainment with the mascots was ott imo. However at least there were several other things on with the dancers and the likes. At Cardiff the first year the same dance troup did the same routine to the same music between each game on each day - so that's something that obviously needs more work. However it's presumably sorted by the RFL's team so not something Murrayfield can be critisised for in anyway.
Everyone I spoke to was having a great time and preferred Edinburgh to Cardiff. Overall I think it was a cracking weekend, more enjoyable than Cardiff for me purely because everything was within the stadium grounds.
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| Rugby wise i was impressed with the occasion. When it came to the nightlife it was terrible. We were refused entry into loads of pubs on both nights for no apparent reason. It wasn't just us either many people we spoke to we're having the same problem even the locals.
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| Quote: KNOCK OFF NIGEL "Rugby wise i was impressed with the occasion. When it came to the nightlife it was terrible. We were refused entry into loads of pubs on both nights for no apparent reason. It wasn't just us either many people we spoke to we're having the same problem even the locals.'"
Was there a big group of you?
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| Quote: KNOCK OFF NIGEL "Rugby wise i was impressed with the occasion. When it came to the nightlife it was terrible. We were refused entry into loads of pubs on both nights for no apparent reason. It wasn't just us either many people we spoke to we're having the same problem even the locals.'"
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| A lot of pubs in Scotland have strict no colours policies, given the historical sectarianism around Rangers and Celtic an, to a lesser extent, around Hearts and Hibs. It's a bugger, especially on an event like this - but could that me the reason?
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| Quote: tb "A lot of pubs in Scotland have strict no colours policies, given the historical sectarianism around Rangers and Celtic an, to a lesser extent, around Hearts and Hibs. It's a bugger, especially on an event like this - but could that me the reason?'"
A lot also have strict policies on no big groups as well. Also it was pay weekend with a number of evets on so lots of them would have been really busy.
Also if anyone appeared to have already had a fair fews drinks or as a bit loud/rowdy would see a whole group turned away.
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| Quote: mav "The game's governing body will be happy then as they achieved a capacity of 44%.'"
Indeed, they may very well be. As I said earlier I will happily leave it to those who both know the goals MM and have access to supporting data to make a judgement.
Quote: mav "Away from the obsessive microcosm of rugby league fora, most normal people have the common sense to recognize context. Getting a not too disimilar number of fans to travel a couple hundred miles, to a neutral venue, in an area the game is not as popular, than would have watched the same at home is not unimpressive. As is being claimed. It is in no way comparable to playing in an empty stadium at home, for which most fans only need to travel a couple miles. '"
Good, a sensible rebuttal of the argument, not mine by the way, that the crowd and how it looked was in fact a negative. It makes so much more sense than trying to suggest that any [negative]discussion of attendance is automatically irrelevant.
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