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Quote: Him "Of course it can be answered. It's just the answer doesn't fit with the views of those saying that the RFL are either breaking the rules by keeping Bradford in SL or that it's somehow "one rule for one club, one rule for another".
I agree, if SLE end up owning Bradford they should be put into the Championship. In fact I would be tempted to relegate them anyway for a massive failure of their licence. But am unsure and a lot would depend on who takes them over, how much debt they pay off and their plans for the future.'"


Which is essentially what I just posted

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Quote: Him "But am unsure and a lot would depend on who takes them over, how much debt they pay off and their plans for the future.'"

I believe you have described a contition....as in a conditional offer.

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You do not have to name any team that has been relegated from super league. You do not get relegated your licence is revoked and then I guess you have to then apply to be in the other divisions. The important thing that was said at the last licence issuing announcement was that a club could have their licence revoked if they dropped the standards that the super league licence was issued on. i guess this was probably aimed at Castleford and or Wakefield with regards to grounds but it was said. Now if going into administration for miss managing your finances, not paying players and dragging the name of Rugby league through the mire is not enough to revoke the licence then I guess it is ok for every club to over spend run up big debts and then go and ask for the governing body to bail them out more, than once.

I could list more than one team that the rugby league have let die without a care over the years what makes Bradford more important than them.
Do not say crowds because that is a false number. Who is to say that the team that replaces them over time could not generate the same crowds or that if Bradford stay in super league their crowds will not drop due to paying the correct price for the goods and the team performance dropping.

Bradford had their chance messed it up, it is now time for another team to have a go.

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Just for Him and Smokey befor they ask. Blackpool Scarbrough are teams that could have been helped by the RFL and would still be with us today but the RFL let them die.

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Quote: Always Travelling "Just for Him and Smokey befor they ask. Blackpool Scarbrough are teams that could have been helped by the RFL and would still be with us today but the RFL let them die.'"


what's the point of flogging a dead horse ?

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Quote: sanjunien "
what's the point of flogging a dead horse ?'"


Here we go! Someone always has to bring a Bronco into the argument. Look, this is about Bradford, not London. Pack it in!

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Quote: Him "So can you answer the question then?
Which clubs have been relegated for going into administration?

I've asked it a few times now but no-one seems able or willing to answer it. I can only imagine because the answer might not fit with their conspiracy theorist views.'"


Nobody has been relegated for going into admin, although the Crusaders effectively relegated themselves as they couldn't afford to continue.
However, following the difficulties at Crusaders and Wakefield, the RFL said it had tightend the rules and would revoke the licence of any failing clubs.
At the time, this appeared to be pointed at Wakefield, who have themselves been visited by a delegation from the RFL to ensure that they were keeping the promises that were made to the RFL.
The Bulls have failed, financially and on this basis, according to the RFL statement, they should expect their licence to be revoked and here is where further problems arise.
There isn't a ready made replacement of SL standard in either Halifax or Toulouse, both of these clubs would need a significant re-vamp to be able to compete in SL and they may not wish to join SL for a 2 year (remaining term of this franchise period)
Can the competition work with 13 clubs, which would cause imbalance in the current fixture programme, probably not.
So, what is the best solution ?

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Nobody has been relegated for going into admin, although the Crusaders effectively relegated themselves as they couldn't afford to continue.
However, following the difficulties at Crusaders and Wakefield, the RFL said it had tightend the rules and would revoke the licence of any failing clubs.
At the time, this appeared to be pointed at Wakefield, who have themselves been visited by a delegation from the RFL to ensure that they were keeping the promises that were made to the RFL.
The Bulls have failed, financially and on this basis, according to the RFL statement, they should expect their licence to be revoked and here is where further problems arise.
There isn't a ready made replacement of SL standard in either Halifax or Toulouse, both of these clubs would need a significant re-vamp to be able to compete in SL and they may not wish to join SL for a 2 year (remaining term of this franchise period)
Can the competition work with 13 clubs, which would cause imbalance in the current fixture programme, probably not.
So, what is the best solution ?'"



Yes SL could work with 13 clubs. SL will not end if there are only 13 clubs. It just means the RFL will have to get off their s and implement a solution.

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I don't understand why it's so desirable to revoke Bradford's licence?! What will it prove? Other than a few keyboard warriors relishing in the demise of a SL club? The only people that got Bradford in this mess will be the only people not to be affected by this. I can't understand why people think that they will just carry on as normal if they stay in SL. Administration and cuts to budget combined with the staff made redundant already will be a big blow to the club.

Wakefield fans astound me most about this, after all the trouble you went through! I agree SLE buying them is a bit off, but if they find a buyer why should they be made an example of?

I can't decide if it's jealousy at Bradford, hope that if Bradford has its licence revoked and thrown on the scrap heap that it will guarantee their team another licence come renewals, or just simply to have a moan about the way the RFL is run.

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Quote: West Leeds Rhino "I don't understand why it's so desirable to revoke Bradford's licence?! What will it prove? Other than a few keyboard warriors relishing in the demise of a SL club? The only people that got Bradford in this mess will be the only people not to be affected by this. I can't understand why people think that they will just carry on as normal if they stay in SL. Administration and cuts to budget combined with the staff made redundant already will be a big blow to the club.

Wakefield fans astound me most about this, after all the trouble you went through! I agree SLE buying them is a bit off, but if they find a buyer why should they be made an example of?

I can't decide if it's jealousy at Bradford, hope that if Bradford has its licence revoked and thrown on the scrap heap that it will guarantee their team another licence come renewals, or just simply to have a moan about the way the RFL is run.'"


Not a ' Vibrant , worth winning in its own right competition ' then ?

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Quote: West Leeds Rhino "I don't understand why it's so desirable to revoke Bradford's licence?! What will it prove? Other than a few keyboard warriors relishing in the demise of a SL club? The only people that got Bradford in this mess will be the only people not to be affected by this. I can't understand why people think that they will just carry on as normal if they stay in SL. Administration and cuts to budget combined with the staff made redundant already will be a big blow to the club.

Wakefield fans astound me most about this, after all the trouble you went through! I agree SLE buying them is a bit off, but if they find a buyer why should they be made an example of?

I can't decide if it's jealousy at Bradford, hope that if Bradford has its licence revoked and thrown on the scrap heap that it will guarantee their team another licence come renewals, or just simply to have a moan about the way the RFL is run.'"


The problem for fans of the smaller clubs is the double standards applied within the league.
As stated previously, if this situation had arisen at Cas, Salford, Wakefield, Widnes or KR, then thy would be dropped from the competition without too much of a second thought, wheras the Bulls although having made a number of staff redundant, which nobody wants to see, continue to make progess towards the play offs with a full playing staff.
IF they had sold some of their stars, whom they cant afford, in the close season then some of this mess could have beed averted.
There is no pleasure in seeing a club struggle, as you said, some of us know this from first hand experience but, lets apply the rules evenly and protect all of our clubs, not just the ones with a "big" name and IF a smalle club would have had its licence revoked for "breaking the rules", then this should apply accross the board.

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Quote: Starbug "Not a ' Vibrant , worth winning in its own right competition ' then ?'"


You read my post with numerous questions regarding your motive to revoking Bradford's licence and can only comment on a figure of speach unrelated to the CC? So you fall into one of those three categories at the bottom then?

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Quote: West Leeds Rhino "You read my post with numerous questions regarding your motive to revoking Bradford's licence and can only comment on a figure of speach unrelated to the CC? So you fall into one of those three categories at the bottom then?'"


Just interested to see peoples perception of the sport and its various facets , I have no opinion either way on Bradford , other than if SLE buy them , they should not remain in SL

But as I said , interesting to see how people view the Championships

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Quote: wrencat1873 "The problem for fans of the smaller clubs is the double standards applied within the league.
As stated previously, if this situation had arisen at Cas, Salford, Wakefield, Widnes or KR, then thy would be dropped from the competition without too much of a second thought, wheras the Bulls although having made a number of staff redundant, which nobody wants to see, continue to make progess towards the play offs with a full playing staff.
IF they had sold some of their stars, whom they cant afford, in the close season then some of this mess could have beed averted.
There is no pleasure in seeing a club struggle, as you said, some of us know this from first hand experience but, lets apply the rules evenly and protect all of our clubs, not just the ones with a "big" name and IF a smalle club would have had its licence revoked for "breaking the rules", then this should apply accross the board.'"

Its not a double standard, its two different issues being treated differently.

Im not sure why some fans are so desperate to pretend each situation is the same when it quite clearly isn’t other than it gives them an excuse and a bogeyman to blame

You’re reading of the situation is beyond naïve. It may very well be that had Bradford ‘sold their stars’ in this symbolic bloodletting to appease you, that they would have had fewer fans come watch, brought in less from ticket and miscellaneous sales and simply brought about this situation earlier.

And it isn’t a ‘big name’ it is a ‘big club’.

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Quote: Starbug "Just interested to see peoples perception of the sport and its various facets , I have no opinion either way on Bradford , other than if SLE buy them , they should not remain in SL

But as I said , interesting to see how people view the Championships'"


As I said, figure of speech. I don't view the Championship like that, I was relating to how some people are jumping up and down about how Bradford should be left to rot and the like.

If you have no opinion on Bradford, think you need to tell your fingers because it's not what you're typing! No one else want to categorise themselves?

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