Widnes in SL 2021 would be a disaster and I say that as a Widnes fan.We are still recovering from the shenanigans of the previous regime which left the club in tatters and near liquidation.Nowhere near ready.It's not gonna happen and rightly so.Fans would'nt turn up anyway to watch 60 point home thrashings once a fortnight.No thanks.Perhaps 2024.

This was the original post to Future of the Game. How do the comments on that thread add to what is clearly chaos in the game ATM.

It seems about as chaotic No 10, currently. How can we steer around the chaos these fools have caused?

Folks, in these troubled times, we all need to take care of ourselves, our loved ones and our communities, but we all need to work out how our game can get through this for the good of millions in the RL family.

How can Rugby League ensure that we have an Elite Level at SL, a middle tier at Championship/Champ 1 level and also at community level in every small town and village up and down the country.

I have a suggestion for your comments and analysis. It is far from perfect, but put out their for consideration of fans and the leaders of OUR game. It takes into consideration that the game employs thousands of players, coaches, back room staff, coaches, admin staff etc. We MUST save our clubs and games.

Suggestion and those players/staff could then be free find other employment in the community whilst keeping the game going, as above. Many will need to find other employment in any case IF clubs cannot survive. Better than to have part time clubs than no clubs at all maybe?

It is clear that our RL communities are likely to suffer more than others elsewhere, a majority of our men work for themselves and many of our women in the public services. Whatever we can do to support them, whilst saving the game at every level, the better.

This post is meant for discussion to look at the bigger picture of the current times AND the bigger of how we save our game for the future. Yes there will be problems and arguments. There always has been sine 1890!!! Now is the time we influence our own game and lives, by working together to save the game.

We will NOT have a Sugar Daddy coming in saving any of our clubs or the game itself. Sky will not save us unless it is financially viable. The BIGGER games sell more. WE need to influence Leaders.

Submitted for sensible responses.

How could Fev stand in? Leeds would have a team and a half in SL with the rest of the Fev squad on building sites during the week. Nonsense.

Has Mcdermott commented on the end of TWP?
He should give the facts when asked as seems a straight shooter?

Why not pick a Championship select team to fulfil TWP fixtures?

Why do you suggest it is the end of Toronto Wolfpack? The owner has stated he will fund the side for next year.

There has been a pandemic which has caused problems.

As the pandemic took hold the governing body stated it would assist any club that suffers directly from the problems caused.

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One club,where a fella called Hudgell gets a lot of publicity,stated he would refuse to pay if relegation was applied for this season.The same fella was grateful for a government loan being awarded.

That loan was not available to Toronto Wolfpack.

Maybe they should ask the Canadian government for a loan then?

Well said and if the owner is has rich has he is why would he need one and has for visas is it not is job to make sure they have them not the rugby league

Worst "serious" post (forgetting the trolling) I've seen on here.

Their "leeway" is a Billionaire owner. A Billion is AT LEAST one thousand $$Million. He's most likely worth far more than that as his mines churn out the valuable minerals daily. Superleague is a cheap sport to fund, even if you have to pay for both sides transatlantic flights. Argyle could have funded anything, at any amount, for the rest of his days without batting an eyelid.

Plain truth is he's not interested anymore, as TRL posters say he's looking to personally reduce his shareholding and exposure in the club right down(i.e. dump it on someone else). As the Sydney Morning Herald said on the link I gave you he's wanting to buy into Melbourne storm who are now looking for additional investors.

The idea he needs "Leeway" is absurd. Now please stop calling me in every post you make, as you only make yourself look silly.

He's absolutely mega rich, all the rubbish about "costs" is unbelievable. Even more unbelievable is the club somehow forgot about Visa restrictions, Visas being perhaps the most important aspect of player management. They travel internationally all the time yet they supposedly "forgot" about Visas.



This reflects poorly on Nigel Wood, Ralph Rimmer and even Ian Lenegan all scared to death about what might happen if they were to boot them out. Take the debate back to the reality. Perez promised TWP would produce players quickly through grid iron conversions and would get a big NATV deal.

It never happened. Not one player and not one cent in four years and an admission (from McDermott) neither would be likely in the near future if ever. Yet nobody in the game ever called this out.

TWP was just a plaything for Argyle as he could not get into the NRL, he can now, and so he's tossed his toy away. lets just forget them and pick up the pieces and crack on with reality.

Genuine question -

Do 'we' (as a collective of fans) feel any obligation (if only a moral one) to the several thousand people who turned out to watch TWP every other week over the last couple of years?

What sort of message does it send to them if people on this side of the pond want them to fail?

One eyed & deluded !

The "loan" was provided by the British Government for the benefit of the sport *in Britain* not to prop up a Club from Canada which pays it's taxes in Canada & has a *Billionaire* Australian owner !!!

I would suggest you look towards David 'Racist' Argyle to be the saviour of his own club instead of U.K taxpayers where ultimately that loan originates from.