How much is Cas and Wakey’s ability to compete recently has to do with SL’s stagnation in the last decade especially with the salary cap?

Go on then tell us.

To the bottom of the grubby barrel, begging bowls in hand, promised the earth, yet receiving endless false dawns. Both guided by an incompetent council, whilst unscrupulous developers run rings round their grandiose plans.



I personally don't give two hoots about what the facilities are like, but I'm a dinosaur brought up on winter rugby & the likes, however if you cannot see the benefits of having a modern facility, just keep rocking up at B.V. for whatever time it has left.

I'm sure Poptart can speak for himself but I've never seen him say there are no benefits to having a modern stadium and facilities - in fact, the exact opposite. As a Trinity fan yourself you know what most of us think and have said about how much difference a new facility would make for us as a team/business and supporters over the years and years. it's just not the be all and end all is it to RL and the game as a whole.

About right that, knock the local one down and tell you to go use a mythical one in a different city.

Of course I see the benefit.
But that benefit is to Wakefield Trinity's income.
It bugs me when other clubs have a go when it makes no difference to them and imply we are so terrible when actually in rugby terns we are consistently better than most on the field.

Well if the salary cap had risen over the last 15 years more in line with what it should’ve done it would be closer to £3m rather than £2m. Hardly a stretch to see how those who struggle to reach the cap as it is now would’ve suffered had it done so.

We are seeing small increases coming up year upon year now of the salary cap along with the marquee rule, it will get harder for those who can’t hang with those changes financially to keep up.

or bless, finished in top 8 two years in a row and think you have dynasty and are a top team. see where you are in two years time, will you then be spouting about what matters on the field when your back in bottom 4, then you will be spouting about how your new stadium will save the game.

So because Wakey and Cas choose to live within their means it's their fault that the salary cap hasn't been aloud to spiral out of control, that's despite the best efforts of certain clubs to try and cheat it, your becoming increasingly boring in your constant Wakey bashing, I think I'd sooner listen to you telling us about the 8 GF you've won, far more interesting

Absolutely, It's called living living within your means, what's it called in Leeds
Stop trying to be clever, because you’re not and just look silly trying to be with attempted smart lines like that last line.

I never said Cas and Wakey were responsible for the salary cap stagnation, what I said is that they’ve benefited from it, and you have the cheek to say I’m twisting words to make a point? Don’t be a hypocrite.

Also give over with the “Wakefield’s ability to keep pace financially is their business alone” because Wakefield fans pop up questioning other clubs both SL and Championship when it suits....so again cut out the hypocrisy. Your fans don’t seem to mind piping up questioning the finances of clubs who don’t run reserves do you now.

I'm not trying to be clever, just lowering myself to your argumentative standards, as for looking silly I'll have to live with it I suppose

Make up your mind, first I was twisting my words and now I’m making them up as I go along...it’s almost like your making up your argument as you go along.