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Quote: freddies wig "Well done Wire, but we're Swinton and Keighley in the championship last year?

Out of touch SL fan shocker......'"


Aren't they called

Co-operative Championship
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Co-operative Championship 1

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Quote: Horatio Yed "Aren't they called

Co-operative Championship
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Co-operative Championship 1'"


both were C1.

you won't beat Keighley by more than 40 tomorrow

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What was the crowd for this big derby today?

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Didnt saints put 70 on Fev last year? and Hull score 50 against Widnes? and Wigan against Sheffield in 2010? While Warrington put 48 on Fev and Bradford 50 on Dewsbury and 58 on Leigh in the same year? Didnt Wigan also score 64 at Widnes in 2010? and Les Catalans put 74 on Batley? and Wakefield beat Leigh by 54 in 2009? While Warrington beat fev 56-8 and Salford beat Batley 66-4 and Saints put 66 on Gateshead?

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it is just a one off, if Fev was wiping the floor every week then it would be a valid point,. But last week an average Sheffield side put 60 points on them. Put it into perspective, if Cas put the same intensity in the match against Fev as they would do if it was against Leeds we wouldn't be talking about this.

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The thread title is correct, Championship clubs should have an opportunity to play their way into the Super League, the result today didn't change anything regarding that

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Quote: Odem "When Fev can spend 1.6m on the cap, have suitable facilities for a 'super' league, and stard proving good young players for the England pool of players, while also increasing their gates... they are more than welcome in super league IMO, untill then they wouldn't last a season in super league. Great club, great fans, would love to see them in super league, but they need to sort more than just a 4th round tie against their rivals.'"


Zak Hardaker! that's one more than several SDL clubs....

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: Hopie "The thread title is correct, Championship clubs should have an opportunity to play their way into the Super League, the result today didn't change anything regarding that'"
The thread title is not correct at all. Championship teams should not be in Super League. Super League teams should be in Super League. Not all the clubs currently in Super League are Super League clubs, but that doesn't mean we should be letting more sub-standard clubs in.

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: Toadstool "Zak Hardaker! that's one more than several SDL clubs....'"
Really? Which clubs?

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Quote: headhunter "The thread title is not correct at all. Championship teams should not be in Super League. Super League teams should be in Super League. Not all the clubs currently in Super League are Super League clubs, but that doesn't mean we should be letting more sub-standard clubs in.'"


If it's OK to let "sub-standard" clubs in then all sub-standard clubs should have the same opportunity. Clubs that meet the minimum criteria should all have their chance and those criteria should be fair and realistic.

I would cut Super league but whilst it is at 14 then other teams deserve the chance to play their way in, every year!

Either don't let any in or let them all have the same chance, teams at the bottom of Super league are the same as those at the top of the championship just with years of super league millions to fall back on.

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Just think how exciting it would have been today if there was unlimited tackles, three points for a try, two extra forwards, line outs...

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Some seem to ignoring reality. Teams can play their way into superleague, they just need to have a quality all round package to back it up once they have WON SOMETHING TO QUALIFY FOR THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

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Quote: Hopie "If it's OK to let "sub-standard" clubs in then all sub-standard clubs should have the same opportunity. Clubs that meet the minimum criteria should all have their chance and those criteria should be fair and realistic.

I would cut Super league but whilst it is at 14 then other teams deserve the chance to play their way in, every year!

Either don't let any in or let them all have the same chance, teams at the bottom of Super league are the same as those at the top of the championship just with years of super league millions to fall back on.'"

Yes, and those super league millions are supposed to be used to improve those clubs (which is different from teams) at the bottom of SL.

Your argument seems to be that if we cant offer the space for everybody to improve, all at once, we shouldnt offer the space to anybody ever. Which seems quite silly.

Yes there are some clubs in SL who need to improve, relegating them isnt going to do that.

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Quote: McClennan "Just think how exciting it would have been today if there was unlimited tackles, three points for a try, two extra forwards, line outs...'"


Good change is good, bad change is bad

Quote: McClennan "
Quote: McClennan "If it's OK to let "sub-standard" clubs in then all sub-standard clubs should have the same opportunity. Clubs that meet the minimum criteria should all have their chance and those criteria should be fair and realistic.

I would cut Super league but whilst it is at 14 then other teams deserve the chance to play their way in, every year!

Either don't let any in or let them all have the same chance, teams at the bottom of Super league are the same as those at the top of the championship just with years of super league millions to fall back on.'"

Yes, and those super league millions are supposed to be used to improve those clubs (which is different from teams) at the bottom of SL.

Your argument seems to be that if we cant offer the space for everybody to improve, all at once, we shouldnt offer the space to anybody ever. Which seems quite silly.

Yes there are some clubs in SL who need to improve, relegating them isnt going to do that.'"


Thanks for telling me what my argument is, shall we have a quotespam war now?

The current system has no stick, failing clubs aren't relegated. They are guaranteed a place as they would go bust without super league money, some of them manage it with the money!

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: Hopie "Good change is good, bad change is bad

Thanks for telling me what my argument is, shall we have a quotespam war now?

The current system has no stick, failing clubs aren't relegated. They are guaranteed a place as they would go bust without super league money, some of them manage it with the money!'"
Which 'failing clubs' haven't been relegated, that would have been relegated under a system of automatic P&R?

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