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For the world cup, I reckon Mossop, Huby and LMS should be good enough at international level. Wales have 2 good props, pity they are not "English".

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Quote: jonny the leyther "Agreed. Just wish he had a bit more aggression, Hock hasn't been the player he was in the games i've seen him in for Wigan since his return. Maybe a Wigginer who's seen more could offer a better opinion though.'"


Think this season will be the litmus test for Hock. He never really looked fit when he came back and even in the last regular season games he looked to be carrying some weight. A full pre-season and proper match fitness under his belt and we'll then be able to see if he will ever be as good as he was when he got banned. If he does regain that form then he'll be a shoe-in for the England team, although what the England team will be doing this time next year is still unclear

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Tom Burgess has impressed me whenever I've seen him this season. He's certainly a big unit and unlike Crabtree, runs to his size. Believe he's still a teenager and could be the next prop to be in the mould of James Graham and become international class in his early twenties.

For the world cup you could probably add LMS and Mossop to those two to give you 4 for the squad. As a Cas fan I'd like to say Huby but having seen his misfortune with injuries over the years I'd be surprised if he was able to put a long enough uninjured run together to realise his undoubted potential.

PS. Not ignoring Sam Burgess, just he seems like a back rower to me. Oh, and another player plagued with injuries.

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I'll be keen to watch Chris Hill at Warrington, I predicted in 2010 he'd be in the England 2013 WC squad, I still believe this.

He's a different kind of prop to battering rams like Morley or Peacock. I'd say he's got hands like Graham, but not the weight, but as quick a prop as i've ever seen.

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Morley won't retire from international RL.,as long as he's being picked he will make himself available... He has actually said this...

I would imagine Peacock has the same attitude...

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Carvell for me is THE prop in Super League, how he is continuously overlooked baffles me. Scott Taylor should be there or thereabouts in 2-3 seasons.

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who played prop at last years 4 nations when Morley and Peacock were injured?

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Quote: Alex Mc "Carvell for me is THE prop in Super League, how he is continuously overlooked baffles me. Scott Taylor should be there or thereabouts in 2-3 seasons.'"

last season Carvell was easily the best 'smashing into the line' prop... He doesnt do the long stints like graham.. but when he is on the pitch he charges that ball in..... you know the legs are not going to stop pumping.

he had some unbelievable games last season for us. I found it bizzare we went into that australian game without him in the 17....Carvell and Graham were the 2 best props in SL last season.

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Quote: J O N N Y "who played prop at last years 4 nations when Morley and Peacock were injured?'"


Graham, Fielden and Griffin were 3 of them.

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I found it a little sad the other day with Morley. Watched him for years smashing every Australian and kiwi going week in, week out in the NRL.

He did seem to look slower. Shame really. Quality player, quality person.

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Quote: Rooster Booster "I found it a little sad the other day with Morley. Watched him for years smashing every Australian and kiwi going week in, week out in the NRL.

He did seem to look slower. Shame really. Quality player, quality person.'"


probably the greatest prop of his generation.

The way he went to Australia and dominated was amazing.... he has played at such a high standard for so long.

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "probably the greatest prop of his generation.

The way he went to Australia and dominated was amazing.... he has played at such a high standard for so long.'"



Everyone goes on about prop, but he'd often play for lengthy periods of a game, moving in and out of front and second rows during a game for the Roosters and still smash everyone.

The one thing I recall is his speed in getting down the pitch after a kick off. Have a look at the sending off again and note that he was the first person down the pitch.

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Quote: Rooster Booster "Everyone goes on about prop, but he'd often play for lengthy periods of a game, moving in and out of front and second rows during a game for the Roosters and still smash everyone.

The one thing I recall is his speed in getting down the pitch after a kick off. Have a look at the sending off again and note that he was the first person down the pitch.'"


there is a great you tube clip of him playing for the roosters... absolutely smashes someone...

type in 'adrian morley big hit on king'... it shows 2 tackles on the run.... he was an absolute animal back then... most fearsome prop in world rugby.

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "he was an absolute animal back then... most fearsome prop in world rugby.'"


Thats a big statement

There were a few others that would be on my list, i.e Ruben Wiki who used to terrify me even watching him on the TV

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Can anyone remember Morley ever being a stand out player at international level, smashing the opposition Aussie and Kiwi forwards around?

No... I can't either.

Apart from once getting sent off after 9 seconds which appears to be his only international claim to fame.

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