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Quote: gutterfax "...i didn't say it was going to be easy
I honestly dont believe we will ever see the RFL and the NRL/ARL working together in a way that will be strong enough to see the reforms of international game we need.

My only hope is that when the IC take over the game in Australia, they can sell the same logic that has led to their formation for the formation of an independent board running the international game.

There is always going to be competition and battles between the clubs/leagues and the international games, whilst the leagues are running the international game it is obvious who is going to win. We need a strong and powerful independent board to move forward.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: SmokeyTA "We need a strong and powerful independent board to move forward.'"

Then I would suggest that the ARL/RFL get together and sit down with the 30 club owners to start the ball rolling. No way they will all agree at first, but there is one thing that will make them sit up and pay attention......TELEVISION.

If it can be shown that a strengthening of the international game could see an increase in awareness and therefore the fan base, then the revenues from Television would be massive.

It may be that the international game needs to grow from age group up? Maybe get assurances now and start the ball rolling with an under 16's or u 18's world cup. Get fijians playing for fiji...tongans for tonga etc. When I was in fiji last year there was an U20's comp between Australian Fijians, New Zealand Fijians and Local fijians. I met one of the players parents...he is on the books at melbourne but his mum said he would jump at the chance to play for the Fijian national team.....get these kids to commit now.....

....not easy, but the benefit in the long term would be a much bigger talent pool.

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Quote: gutterfax "....and maybe, just maybe some people should have had more faith in the opening round fixture prediction game rlHERErl........Looks like a plastic paddy living in union central New Zealand was the only one with any confidence

I still reckon the Panthers game and the Canberra game had about 5k too much announced. That would put me bang on mark for tonight icon_wink.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "Then I would suggest that the ARL/RFL get together and sit down with the 30 club owners to start the ball rolling. No way they will all agree at first, but there is one thing that will make them sit up and pay attention......TELEVISION.

If it can be shown that a strengthening of the international game could see an increase in awareness and therefore the fan base, then the revenues from Television would be massive.

It may be that the international game needs to grow from age group up? Maybe get assurances now and start the ball rolling with an under 16's or u 18's world cup. Get fijians playing for fiji...tongans for tonga etc. When I was in fiji last year there was an U20's comp between Australian Fijians, New Zealand Fijians and Local fijians. I met one of the players parents...he is on the books at melbourne but his mum said he would jump at the chance to play for the Fijian national team.....get these kids to commit now.....

....not easy, but the benefit in the long term would be a much bigger talent pool.'"

If someone can convince them then that would be great. I just get the impression the ARL/NRL especially resist international RL. Hopefully the independent commission will be the catalyst we need

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Harrigan "I still reckon the Panthers game and the Canberra game had about 5k too much announced. That would put me bang on mark for tonight The AUP prevents me from debating this with you further icon_cool.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "The AUP prevents me from debating this with you further

Actually on this forum you are ok... I have no jurisdiction here icon_wink.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "I agree with your sentiment but there are a few specifics i would disagree with.

The problem is, SL and the NRL are the cash cows, how do you get them to sign over power to another body. And how do we get the independence of this body which at the moment is pretty much ockers.'"


Surely the Aussies know much better than us how to grow a sport like RL , they get sell out crowds far in advance of ours , bigger TV deals and are lauded by people like yourself for expanding the game nationally

They should be in charge surely

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: SmokeyTA "If someone can convince them then that would be great. I just get the impression the ARL/NRL especially resist international RL. Hopefully the independent commission will be the catalyst we need'"


There are many on here with far more knowledge of RL than me, but I think that an U18's world cup would be the best way forward. Once you are selected to play for a country...that's it!
I know it would be harsh on some players, but if you miss out on selection for England, you might get a chance to play for Ireland, Scotland or Wales through a grandparent rule......then, even if you turn out to be the next Andy Farrell, you are locked into playing for the country you have represented.
In Australia, the sheer number of pacifica island qualified players would mean that potentially, within 5 or 6 years, you could see a competative international competition...at the very least you wouldn't get any hammerings at the senior world cup and no need for a stupid super group!

The fact that so many Kiwis now play in the NRL is directly connected to them owning the only 2 international trophies at present. If you could get the other islanders to represent their herritage country then the I reckon another pacific island could hold those trophies within 10 years.

As I say...there are many on here who know more than I do, but I think this would be the best way forward.

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Quote: Starbug "Surely the Aussies know much better than us how to grow a sport like RL , they get sell out crowds far in advance of ours , bigger TV deals and are lauded by people like yourself for expanding the game nationally

They should be in charge surely'"

The ARL/NRLs main priority is the NRL. We cant have our international game run on what is best for the NRL

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Harrigan "Actually on this forum you are ok... I have no jurisdiction here nah...you're OK. I may well be OK here but I enjoy my posting rights over there as well icon_cool.gif
I can't believe m4e started this thread when he needs a minus crowd tonight icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "The ARL/NRLs main priority is the NRL. We cant have our international game run on what is best for the NRL'"


And yet they run their sport much better than we run ours , so you don't want the best qualified people running the sport ?

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Quote: Starbug "And yet they run their sport much better than we run ours , so you don't want the best qualified people running the sport ?'"

Agreed, but they do run the International game with themselves firmly in mind.

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Quote: gutterfax "There are many on here with far more knowledge of RL than me, but I think that an U18's world cup would be the best way forward. Once you are selected to play for a country...that's it!
I know it would be harsh on some players, but if you miss out on selection for England, you might get a chance to play for Ireland, Scotland or Wales through a grandparent rule......then, even if you turn out to be the next Andy Farrell, you are locked into playing for the country you have represented.
In Australia, the sheer number of pacifica island qualified players would mean that potentially, within 5 or 6 years, you could see a competative international competition...at the very least you wouldn't get any hammerings at the senior world cup and no need for a stupid super group!

The fact that so many Kiwis now play in the NRL is directly connected to them owning the only 2 international trophies at present. If you could get the other islanders to represent their herritage country then the I reckon another pacific island could hold those trophies within 10 years.

As I say...there are many on here who know more than I do, but I think this would be the best way forward.'"
Players simply wouldnt represent the smaller nations at youth level. They simply wouldnt give up the opportunity to play top tier international RL. They would hold out on the hope of making it. Why would the next Andy Farrell give up ever playing one of the big three to play in a youth international tournament.

The answer is to make it as attractive to play for Fiji as it is for Australia. Have the Scotlands and the Irelands and the Samoans playing the Aussies, Us and the Kiwis.

Have the home nations and france play each other every year, mid season. Have GB represent them at the 4 nations (bar france) and as the home nations in the WC. Have Fiji, Samoa, Tonga, Aus and NZ play each other and a Pacific Islands side play in the 4 nations with GB, Aus, and NZ.

Then Jarryd Hayne can play for Fiji and play in top tier internationals, Rhys Evans can play for Wales and play in the 4 nations.

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Quote: Starbug "And yet they run their sport much better than we run ours , so you don't want the best qualified people running the sport ?'"

Yes, and they do run their sport better than we run ours. But their priority is their sport, not ours, not the french of Pac Islanders.

There maybe things which the international board needs to do which might not be the best thing for the NRL, Whilst their priority is something else they cant run the RLIF

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Quote: Conorgiantsfan "Agreed, but they do run the International game with themselves firmly in mind.'"


Sorry I cannot believe a sports governing body would do something like that , they would be so selfish as to make decisions to damage the sport in self interest

eusa_think.gif , then again ?

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