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| Quote: allstaruk "its on the wada website that dimethylamylamine (thats in oxyelite) is prohibbited in competition so surely that means it cant be taken during the season'"
That was my assumption. But "in competition" could simply mean game day.
The definition of "in competition" and "out of competition" need specifying. There can't be a grey area between the two if they're handing out 2 year bans. |
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well surely when you can get drug tested any time during the season and pre season you wouldn't want to be taking the stuff even if oxyelite say you can get away with taking it 12 hours before the test. off season is the only time in my eyes when they should be taking it
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| Quote: "In and out-of-competition at Major Games
Unless otherwise stated, the in-competition period begins 12 hours before a competition which the athlete is participating in and finishes at the end of any associated doping control. Some major events may declare a different in-competition period (for example, at the Olympic Games the IOC declares that in-competition testing can take place from the opening to the closing of the athlete village, which is a period of around one month).
An athlete should not have any substance that is prohibited in-competition in their system during that time. Athletes should check with their NGB, IF or event organisers as to how their in-competition period is defined.'"
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So as long as none of the Hull players had taken Oxy Elite after 3AM the morning of the Derby then they wouldn't have failed the test anyway.
From this then, I assume it's out of your system within the 12 hours, otherwise Gleeson could have just said he took it the night before the Salford game? |
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I hope the new generation of talent are more committed, professional and intelligent than the likes of Long and Gleeson. Disgraceful pair.
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| Quote: Tre Cool "I hope the new generation of talent are more committed, professional and intelligent than the likes of Long and Gleeson. Disgraceful pair.'"
To be fair, this isn't really their fault. |
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "Sean Long said
But doesn't the fact that Gleeson did test positive suggest that he and most likely others who were also taking it actually did have it in their system before, during and after the match?
Isn't that the point? That they believed it was OK to take therefore why would they need to stop taking it 12 hours (or 48 or whatever) before the game? Gleeson didn't and what Long is saying is that if he had been tested (or others had been) then he/they would also have tested positive, therefore Long (at least) also had it in his system during games.
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| Quote: Barnacle Bill "But doesn't the fact that Gleeson did test positive suggest that he and most likely others who were also taking it actually did have it in their system before, during and after the match?
Isn't that the point? That they believed it was OK to take therefore why would they need to stop taking it 12 hours (or 48 or whatever) before the game? Gleeson didn't and what Long is saying is that if he had been tested (or others had been) then he/they would also have tested positive, therefore Long (at least) also had it in his system during games.'"
Gleeson and Long are claiming others in the squad take it. Nothing has been said about 'when' they take it, just that they were taking it. Judging by the quote from Long, he still doesn't have a clue about when it's OK to take it considering he thought taking it the night before was wrong when apparently it's OK. |
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "Gleeson and Long are claiming others in the squad take it. Nothing has been said about 'when' they take it, just that they were taking it. Judging by the quote from Long, he still doesn't have a clue about when it's OK to take it considering he thought taking it the night before was wrong when apparently it's OK.'"
Which is the point I was making. It seems clear to me that Long is saying he was taking it less than 12 hours before game time otherwise why would he be stating he could have tested positive too?
Gleeson tested positive, so he was definately taking it less than 12 hours before game time and Long supplied it to him. Why would Long advise anything other than what he did with it? So, on balance, I think it's fair to assume both Long and Gleeson were taking this stuff less than 12 hours before game time and if they were, then it's not too hard to imagine other players were too. |
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "Do you have a link for that (about the 48 hours)?
I agree about some people not wanting to understand (a Rovers fan wanting a pop, or a pro-union tabloid). But I think it's a bit unfair to say some are too stupid to understand. It's not a case of them being stupid, it's a case of their not being very good information out there.'"
No, I don't have a link but one of the presenter on the radio was saying that following Sean Longs statement on Monday night. Oh and for the record, I'm a Rovers supporter, you really should be careful about making generalisations!! |
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| Quote: Barnacle Bill "Which is the point I was making. It seems clear to me that Long is saying he was taking it less than 12 hours before game time otherwise why would he be stating he could have tested positive too?
Gleeson tested positive, so he was definately taking it less than 12 hours before game time and Long supplied it to him. Why would Long advise anything other than what he did with it? So, on balance, I think it's fair to assume both Long and Gleeson were taking this stuff less than 12 hours before game time and if they were, then it's not too hard to imagine other players were too.'"
I don't think they were taking it within the 12 hour period, but I think he was implying that the stuff might still be in his system in that time. |
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| Quote: Barnacle Bill "Which is the point I was making. It seems clear to me that Long is saying he was taking it less than 12 hours before game time otherwise why would he be stating he could have tested positive too?'"
Because he quite clearly doesn't have a clue about it.
Quote: Barnacle Bill "Gleeson tested positive, so he was definately taking it less than 12 hours before game time and Long supplied it to him.'"
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