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If the ball is always rising then the first pic doesn't prove anything. As people are pointing out, you don't know when the ball is crossing the goal line so we could be seeing that ball still in front of the posts but heading wide.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "The point of the image is to clearly show that the ball's line was inside the post.
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It's inside the post because of the angle of the camera and because you assume that it has reached the line. The ball, as I've pointed out swerves back left (through speed or just the way it was kicked).

FWIW, here's my image of when I think it is over the post.



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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "BTW you can actually see the cameraman in the image behind the posts,'"


It might be a cameraman. But it also might be a man dressed in a Batman costume.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "I know how ridiculous you and your attempt to be clever sounds
No, no attempt to sound clever. It's just there in black & white, you clearly said you didn't know then followed that up by saying the evidence is overwhelming.

How can evidence be overwhelming yet at the same time you don't know? Surely a grown up can explain properly to a key question, or will you resort to childish responses again?

You clearly contradicted yourself and aren't grown up to admit it.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "
Maybe you can't read, then? As I explained it, the ball hit the glass and dropped down, the final image simply shows where it landed. I agree that where it may have bounced after it hit the seat would not be helpful. Which is why I didn't bother with that.
Anyway instead of making silly comebacks, now that I've explained it, the footage is there for anyone who wants to check my conclusions.'"


As for this point - sorry, I got confused by your image. I thought you were showing a blurred image of the ball on the grass.

With Brough kicking from outside the left hand post aiming to get the ball on a right trajectory you would expect it to hit somewhere to the right of where he kicked it and carry on going right after it's flown over the post, depending on distance between the posts and the hospitality window, plus speed of the kick. Ball could easily travel an extra foot right after it misses

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Quote: Fully "It's inside the post because of the angle of the camera and because you assume that it has reached the line.'"

But I didn't assume that at all! My images show the line the ball set off, and kept to. That's my point.

Quote: Fully " The ball, as I've pointed out swerves back left (through speed or just the way it was kicked). '"

But it does not swerve left. It cannot have swerved left to end up where it did. Unless you suggest it swerved left, but then swerved back to the right?

Quote: Fully "FWIW, here's my image of when I think it is over the post. '"

Yes but you "thinking" that's when it is over the post is based on nothing at all. Whereas my analysis of the ball's trajectory has a known starting point and a known end point, and they if correct prove that unless it did a banana shot, it was a valid drop goal.

And your argument ignores the rest of my evidence. Why, because you can't explain it?

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Quote: Fully "As for this point - sorry, I got confused by your image. I thought you were showing a blurred image of the ball on the grass.

With Brough kicking from outside the left hand post aiming to get the ball on a right trajectory you would expect it to hit somewhere to the right of where he kicked it and carry on going right after it's flown over the post, depending on distance between the posts and the hospitality window, plus speed of the kick. Ball could easily travel an extra foot right after it misses'"


Could it, though? Why? If it swerved left, how could it then go right?

Anyway the position where it hit the glass, as viewed from behind Brough, is yards inside the left post. Not a foot.

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