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| Quote: LeythIg "I thought the thread title was created by a mod that had merged several threads on the same subject'"
I think it was just THE at the start and THREAD at the end of the title that was added by mods. The middle part is the original.
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| Quote: Pepe "I think it was just THE at the start and THREAD at the end of the title that was added by mods. The middle part is the original.'"
Ah, fair dos then. To be honest, once a thread goes to 16 pages I forget what it was about in the first place. I only pipe up to pass the time at work!
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| Quote: Pepe "You didn't get relegated. As Chris has said, off the field circumstances saved Leigh. Perhaps they should have promoted an extra club from Ch1 and sent your club down?[/quote]
The RFL did consider that , which means , we were relegated , if we hadn't been , they could not have considered it
It was several weeks after the end of the season until the RFL decided to put us back in the Championship , we were relegated on the last day of the 2009 season
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| Starbug, you are arguing semantics. Did you play a single game in championship 1?
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| Quote: LeythIg "Perhaps they should have. Perhaps they decided that Leigh were the highest placed team in the league which could have moved up to the Championship. Perhaps this is an argument for 2 years ago? '"
Surely it would have been fairer to promote a Ch1 club which had done well and finished high in the league and got to the semi finals, rather than a club struggling near the bottom of the Championship?
That would have rewarded the on-field performance of the club?
Do you reckon that the RFL just offered that place to Leigh because they were likely to be able to prosper in the Championship better than any club in Ch1?
I think that’s the most likely answer. So, Leigh benefited for what they had in place off the field rather than on it.
It may have been 2 years ago, but I didn’t hear a single Leyther whinging about player performance elevating them to a higher league then, in a way they are doing now.
It’s called hypocrisy!
Or perhaps, selective memory?
Quote: LeythIg "Perhaps Leigh's relegation / reinstatement is something Widnes fans are using as a some sort of petty deflection tool against anyone that questions anything that relates to their club'"
Why would we want to do that?
Everything is looking great at Widnes at the moment. We just need to show up the hypocrites for what they truly are.
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| Quote: Chris Dalton "Starbug, you are arguing semantics. Did you play a single game in championship 1?'"
That is irrelivant , the RFL restructured the divisions in the off season , on the last week of the regular season we were relegated
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| Quote: Starbug "That is irrelivant , the RFL restructured the divisions in the off season , on the last week of the regular season we were relegated'"
How on earth is it irrelevant ? We're talking about you being demoted to championship 1. Did you play a single game in championship 1?
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| Quote: Starbug "The RFL did consider that , which means , we were relegated , if we hadn't been , they could not have considered it
It was several weeks after the end of the season until the RFL decided to put us back in the Championship , we were relegated on the last day of the 2009 season '"
That’s makes leigh fans even bigger hypocrites then. It means you were elevated into a higher league based on off the field issues. You can’t even say that it was a case of what we have we hold.
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| Quote: Chris Dalton "How on earth is it irrelevant ?
So you only get relegated on the 1 st day of the following season ? , no you get relegated when the RFL say you are relegated , they told us we were relegated
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| Quote: Starbug "So you only get relegated on the 1 st day of the following season ? , no you get relegated when the RFL say you are relegated , they told us we were relegated'"
And they saved you from relegation later on because of Gateshead. You were never in championship 1, because you operated the following season in the championship with the same cap and rules as the rest. You were to be relegated, but you were saved from it. You never felt the sting of relegation ergo you were not relegated.
As I say, it's all semantics from you.
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| Quote: Pepe "Surely it would have been fairer to promote a Ch1 club which had done well and finished high in the league and got to the semi finals, rather than a club struggling near the bottom of the Championship?
That would have rewarded the on-field performance of the club?
Do you reckon that the RFL just offered that place to Leigh because they were likely to be able to prosper in the Championship better than any club in Ch1?
I think that’s the most likely answer. So, Leigh benefited for what they had in place off the field rather than on it.
It may have been 2 years ago, but I didn’t hear a single Leyther whinging about player performance elevating them to a higher league then, in a way they are doing now.
It’s called hypocrisy!
Or perhaps, selective memory?
Why would we want to do that?
Everything is looking great at Widnes at the moment. We just need to show up the hypocrites for what they truly are.'"
I'd say most leythers acknowledged that we were very very lucky.
It's still totally irrelevant to Super League franchises though.
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| Quote: LeythIg "I'd say most leythers acknowledged that we were very very lucky.
It's still totally irrelevant to Super League franchises though.'"
So are Leigh
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| Quote: Chris Dalton "And they saved you from relegation later on because of Gateshead. You were never in championship 1, because you operated the following season in the championship with the same cap and rules as the rest. You were to be relegated, but you were saved from it. You never felt the sting of relegation ergo you were not relegated.
As I say, it's all semantics from you.'"
Let him have that if he wants it, Chris.
At least we had to submit a bid to be promoted to a higher league, and be judged against others for it. They were promoted to a higher league without the other, more worthy on the field Ch1 clubs, who had a great season, being able to make a bid themselves.
Christ, the more I think about it, the more sorry I feel for the club that must have missed out.
But that’s RFL favouritism for you.
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| Quote: LeythIg "I'd say most leythers acknowledged that we were very very lucky.
It's still totally irrelevant to Super League franchises though.'"
It's not if you're arguing that Widnes should not be promoted for off the field processes.
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| Quote: Pepe "Let him have that if he wants it, Chris.
At least we had to submit a bid to be promoted to a higher league, and be judged against others for it. They were promoted to a higher league without the other, more worthy on the field Ch1 clubs, who had a great season, being able to make a bid themselves.
Christ, the more I think about it, the more sorry I feel for the club that must have missed out.
But that’s RFL favouritism for you.
Yes, I do feel sorry for the other C1 finallist not given the chance to ply their trade in the championship thanks to political favouritism which Leigh benefitted from.
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