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| Quote: shinymcshine "Looking at 2018, with the possibility of Toronto, Leigh, and Toulouse being in the top 4 of the Championship, it could mean that 3 current SL teams will be in serious threat of relegation next season.
Given a 12 team SL, then a 25% change of SL teams for 2019 would be a significant shift in the game.'"
It's about to get really interesting, and now they want to change the structure. They just can't follow something through! | | |
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| Quote: shinymcshine "Looking at 2018, with the possibility of Toronto, Leigh, and Toulouse being in the top 4 of the Championship, it could mean that 3 current SL teams will be in serious threat of relegation next season.
Given a 12 team SL, then a 25% change of SL teams for 2019 would be a significant shift in the game.'"
September 2018 could be twitchy bum time for several SL teams, not just from. the 8's, but also from licence criteria.
Teams like Cas and Wakey need to start building these new stadiums and not just producing artist drawing.
It could be 14 teams from a possible 18 to 20 applicants. We could loose 5 or even 6 from the current 12 ! | | |
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| Quote: BiltonRobin "September 2018 could be twitchy bum time for several SL teams, not just from. the 8's, but also from licence criteria.
Teams like Cas and Wakey need to start building these new stadiums and not just producing artist drawing.
It could be 14 teams from a possible 18 to 20 applicants. We could loose 5 or even 6 from the current 12 !'"
So you would jettison half of the current Super League, that makes sense 
Toronto will probably be favourites for a SL spot.
However, just as Leigh found it difficult to gain promotion from The Championship through the current format, any other club will also find it far from straight forward.
Dropping half of the current top flight, in the HOPE of something better, would be quite ridiculous and it would have people leaving the game in droves.
Nice one Nigel but, think again. | | |
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| Quote: BiltonRobin "September 2018 could be twitchy bum time for several SL teams, not just from. the 8's, but also from licence criteria.
Teams like Cas and Wakey need to start building these new stadiums and not just producing artist drawing.
It could be 14 teams from a possible 18 to 20 applicants. We could loose 5 or even 6 from the current 12 !'"
If they ended up with 18-20 very strong applications then there may be a good reason to expand SL to 16 teams like the NRL. Providing they would be good 16 teams, rather than just based off facilities etc. | | | |
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| Quote: SaleSlim "HKR fan Woody by any chance?
Slight difference in circumstances don't you think between the 2 games? ![]()
Your second to last sentence was ultimately my point, MK showed no class flouncing around with his big fake cheque.....completely unnecessary and without any dignity for someone in a senior role within a professional sports club.
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Thats my worry in many respects. There's still a question as to whether we have Super League-standard clubs in the Championship, or Championship-standard clubs in Super League.
I'd be reluctant to see SL expand too much as I don't think there is enough talent there to sustain a competitive league and drive standards up. I know this isn't a universally popular view (and no doubt people will argue that it's easy for a Leeds fan to say this - and it probably is), but it isn't necessarily a bad thing to make our top league somewhat exclusive. | | | |
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If it was straight P&R Hull KR would go up Widnes down. Other than the teams what would the difference be with regards player uncertainty which Cooke refers?
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| Quote: Woody "Your second to last sentence was ultimately my point, MK showed no class flouncing around with his big fake cheque.....completely unnecessary and without any dignity for someone in a senior role within a professional sports club.'"
Would've been easy enough to just say it then eh rather than have a thinly veiled b1tch? | | |
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| Quote: Exiled down south "If it was straight P&R Hull KR would go up Widnes down. Other than the teams what would the difference be with regards player uncertainty which Cooke refers?'"
Ex-f*cking-actly!!! Jesus H..... ATEOTD, relegation is relegation regardless of whether it's the team that finishes bottom or whether it's the team that loses the MPG. Clubs have to rebuild and some players have to deal with new reduced contracts. For me, the team that finishes top of the league is the best and should be crowned champions(Cas) and the team that finishes bottom is the worst (Widnes) and fully deserves to go down.
Whilst the GF is a great spectacle it's just fundamentally and ethically wrong IMO, as is the MPG. All this BS about the MPG ruining livelihoods & mental health is just utter cr@p. | | |
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| Quote: SaleSlim "Ex-f*cking-actly!!! Jesus H..... ATEOTD, relegation is relegation regardless of whether it's the team that finishes bottom or whether it's the team that loses the MPG. Clubs have to rebuild and some players have to deal with new reduced contracts. For me, the team that finishes top of the league is the best and should be crowned champions(Cas) and the team that finishes bottom is the worst (Widnes) and fully deserves to go down.
Whilst the GF is a great spectacle it's just fundamentally and ethically wrong IMO, as is the MPG. All this BS about the MPG ruining livelihoods & mental health is just utter cr@p.'"
Ethically wrong??? Lol
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Whilst the GF is a great spectacle it's just fundamentally and ethically wrong IMO, as is the MPG. All this BS about the MPG ruining livelihoods & mental health is just utter cr@p.'"
So If what you are saying is right then the Season effectively finished at round 23 which saw Cas top and Widnes bottom, Leeds 2nd Hull 3rd and Salford 4th.
So why is it that St. Helens seems to think they finished 4th and Salford fans know they finished 7th? Well maybe it was because the season didnt finish at round 23 but actually went to round 30.
Now in those extra 7 games in the middle 8s Widnes won more games than Leigh and if their points for the season in total were added together than Widnes had finished on 21 points to Leighs 20 points. So I think that you would find that Leigh had in fact been the worst SL side this season had fairly (according to you ) got relegated. | | |
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| Quote: Brenio "So If what you are saying is right then the Season effectively finished at round 23 which saw Cas top and Widnes bottom, Leeds 2nd Hull 3rd and Salford 4th.
So why is it that St. Helens seems to think they finished 4th and Salford fans know they finished 7th? Well maybe it was because the season didnt finish at round 23 but actually went to round 30.
Now in those extra 7 games in the middle 8s Widnes won more games than Leigh and if their points for the season in total were added together than Widnes had finished on 21 points to Leighs 20 points. So I think that you would find that Leigh had in fact been the worst SL side this season had fairly (according to you ) got relegated.'"
Much as it pains me to say it, as a Leyther, you are right 'Brenio'. Everyone knew the rules at the start of the season - i.e. the worst after 30 games could go down - and all agreed to them. We benefited from the system last season, so have to take it on the chin this time around. Having watched Widnes dominate and dismantle us THREE times this season, I couldn't think of a single argument that would say we were better than you.
We have got what we deserved - end of! Hopefully we can mirror HKR's tremendous achievement and get back in SL, stronger and wiser for this year's experience. | | | |
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| Wigan |
29 |
768 |
338 |
430 |
48 |
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| Hull KR |
29 |
731 |
344 |
387 |
44 |
| Warrington |
29 |
769 |
351 |
418 |
42 |
| Leigh |
29 |
580 |
442 |
138 |
33 |
| Salford |
28 |
556 |
561 |
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32 |
| St.Helens |
28 |
618 |
411 |
207 |
30 |
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| Catalans |
27 |
475 |
427 |
48 |
30 |
| Leeds |
27 |
530 |
488 |
42 |
28 |
| Huddersfield |
27 |
468 |
658 |
-190 |
20 |
| Castleford |
27 |
425 |
735 |
-310 |
15 |
| Hull FC |
27 |
328 |
894 |
-566 |
6 |
| LondonB |
27 |
317 |
916 |
-599 |
6 |
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27 |
1032 |
275 |
757 |
52 |
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| Toulouse |
26 |
765 |
388 |
377 |
37 |
| Bradford |
28 |
723 |
420 |
303 |
36 |
| York |
29 |
695 |
501 |
194 |
32 |
| Widnes |
27 |
561 |
502 |
59 |
29 |
| Featherstone |
27 |
634 |
525 |
109 |
28 |
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| Sheffield |
26 |
626 |
526 |
100 |
28 |
| Doncaster |
26 |
498 |
619 |
-121 |
25 |
| Halifax |
26 |
509 |
650 |
-141 |
22 |
| Batley |
26 |
422 |
591 |
-169 |
22 |
| Swinton |
28 |
484 |
676 |
-192 |
20 |
| Barrow |
25 |
442 |
720 |
-278 |
19 |
| Whitehaven |
25 |
437 |
826 |
-389 |
18 |
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27 |
348 |
879 |
-531 |
4 |
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6 |
10 |
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