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And while we're worrying about Quins sustainability, when was the last time that two teams in SL appeared without a main sponsor on their jersey? That's a big chunk of money that Quins & Crusaders are doing without at the moment.

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So after reading all of this and not being at the game. Was this the figure given out on the PA or is this the figure plucked from the Press Association who had a crowd of 800 and odd at Hull KR last year.

I find it hard that the crowd is so low considering the amount of advertising in the Metro for this game and ticket offers.

Like others the stoop is not a 15 min journey from Waterloo. Its a good 30 - 40 mins. Plus getting to waterloo in the first. Would mean and journey of 1 hour 10mins for me. Its like an away day every week.

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Quote: KensalGreenRL "Been around the London area for about the past three years and watched Quins in that time, getting a season ticket both this year and last (though I was initally not going to renew this year after the pain of last season- a factor that I think may have had an impact on today's crowd).

As an ex-pat Northerner, I love Rugby League and I love having a team I can watch (nearly) on my door step. I've met other ex-pat northerners and curious RU fans (who suprisingly don't all wear top hats and quaff Champagne- and often either have a high level of respect for League or simply apathy/disinterest). I don't know why more people turn up- it's an endless debate that has no easy answer. The only tangible way crowds would increase was if the club had a major backer (like they did with Virgin) who could pay for a top flight team and proper marketing. '"


I can't imagine any sponsor however big and ready to 'buy' a team capable of competing seriously in the top four dramatically changing the size of the crowds in London - can't we just face it,London dosen't want top class RL ? - not at the moment anyway,so does it deserve to have it above the likes of Fev & Fax or the other heartland teams ?
Maybe what's needed is a period of consolidation in the Championship for the Quins which will allow the apparent development of the game in the southern counties to take shape and re apply for SL status when the game has reached greater levels of interest in the London area ?

Quote: KensalGreenRL "With the rise and rise of Union since it went professional, and the media presence of both their National game and the Guiness Premiership, I don't think that's going to happen. If the RFL put money into marketing the club to the South you might see results- but then again, I'm sure that won't make them very popular with the type of people who post on here.
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By all accounts the RFL is making great efforts to develop the game down south,hence the vast increase in RL participation at junior level at least.This will take time to bear fruit however,so maybe a few years spent developing a strong Championship side along with the Skolars is the answer ?

Quote: KensalGreenRL "To all those complaining- the current chairman will only keep us afloat for the next three/four years (from the current lot of liscences to the next one), so its ultimately do or die for the club over the next three years. We actually have a core home fanbase of around 1500-2000, which, let's face it, isn't that much lower than a team like Salford (who will obviously attract more away fans). If the team fail to achieve anything and still attract crowds around the 3000 av. level, it's doubtful that we would find new backers and the club would probably fold to the delight of the flatcappers. The sport would go back to being an M62 curiousity that once attempted to be viewed as a national game, but gave up the ghost.'"


As a non-flatcapper (tractor boy from down sarf !) it wouldn't delight me to see any club go to the wall whether they be north,south or wherever.What's important is the game as a whole.Sky tv will still have as many southern based viewers if Quins are in SL or not.They just want to present decent games to their customers.
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Why do a lot of Quins fans always moan about how long it takes to get there? Is it not similar for fans of all clubs? London has one if the biggest & longest tube networks on the planet and within 3 tubes you can likely get to anywhere on any line!

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Quote: dids858 "So after reading all of this and not being at the game. Was this the figure given out on the PA or is this the figure plucked from the Press Association who had a crowd of 800 and odd at Hull KR last year.

I find it hard that the crowd is so low considering the amount of advertising in the Metro for this game and ticket offers.

Like others the stoop is not a 15 min journey from Waterloo. Its a good 30 - 40 mins. Plus getting to waterloo in the first. Would mean and journey of 1 hour 10mins for me. Its like an away day every week.'"


for gawds sake,you're complaining about 70 minutes travelling time to get to match ? icon_biggrin.gifOH:

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Quote: JonM "And while we're worrying about Quins sustainability, when was the last time that two teams in SL appeared without a main sponsor on their jersey? That's a big chunk of money that Quins & Crusaders are doing without at the moment.'"

After five minutes, the players shirts were so muddy it would have been hard to tell who was sponsoring them anyway.
Anybody know how much it costs to be the main sponsor of an expansion club?

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Quote: Kelvin's Ferret "You can't get all the way to Twickenham on the tube as it doesn't have a tube station
Train & tubes then my apologies. Have stayed in Twickers for a trip to the capital once so know it ain't too bad!

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Quote: sanjunien "]

for gawds sake,you're complaining about 70 minutes travelling time to get to match ?
used to be a decent bus service from Hounslow to Twickers - does it still exist ?

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Quote: Kelvin's Ferret "You can't get all the way to Twickenham on the tube as it doesn't have a tube station 120 plus Crusaders fans made the journey, averaging a 400 miles plus round trip each, just a week after an expensive weekend in Cardiff. I'm sure a fair few of the eighty odd thousand who will be attending a certain match across the road next week will manage to use the public transport.

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Quote: dally messenger "wow that a lot of travelling.

i used to complain about a 90 minute drive to wollongong'"


you're telling me dm ! it it wasn't for the superb french motorway system I couldn't do it - I've just been made redundant so,the house is on the market and we're heading south to the TO area,fingers crossed...
can't imagine any other fan in europe doing as many kms as me - think I deserve some kind of medal... mind you,it has it's advantages without 'er indoors for example.. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: sanjunien "you're telling me dm ! it it wasn't for the superb french motorway system I couldn't do it - I've just been made redundant so,the house is on the market and we're heading south to the TO area,fingers crossed...
can't imagine any other fan in europe doing as many kms as me - think I deserve some kind of medal... mind you,it has it's advantages without 'er indoors for example..
plus living in the south of france will beat living in most other areas where the game is played.

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Quote: dally messenger "plus living in the south of france will beat living in most other areas where the game is played.'"



ie Barrow in Furness,Bradford,'Ull,Keighley,Workington et al..........

seems strange thinking about a 'new start' at 57 ! eusa_think.gif

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