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'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world' Yves Le Prieur, the real inventor of the aqualung:



Quote: J20 "Widnes Vikings

The stadium is an appropriate size and well appointed following significant investment in recent years. The club has been in the difficult position of seeking to take into account the club’s historical attendance and playing records but naturally distancing itself from the previous regime’s financial record. The current company has only been in existence for a few months following insolvency in October 2007. Early indications are that under new ownership the club has made very good progress so far and has attracted good sponsors and the support of the local authority. The club has maintained a reasonable playing infrastructure despite being in the National League but this would require further investment to ensure that they could be competitive in Super League particularly within Club Trained rules.'"


Can't wait to see them back in, wonder who it will be at the expense of though.

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I have to say that Championship fans are coming over as quite a bitter bunch at the moment. Why not just focus on what your club is doing right or wrong and leave other clubs to their own devices.

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Quote: Leaguefan "Sadly that applies to a lot of "professional clubs" not only in RL.'"


Correct, my football team Sheffield Wednesday are currently facing a winding up order with more than £1m to the taxman, and around £20m owed to the bank, yesterday new investment was halted, and the club could be in dire straits. However the won't be getting any special treatment, even when they are arguably the biggest club in League 1, and were one of the best supported clubs in the championship. Unfortunately there is no magic wand the owls can wave at the FA icon_sad.gif

Obviously the RFL is nothing like the FA in terms of its business aims and professionalism.

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Quote: rover49 "Can't wait to see them back in, wonder who it will be at the expense of though.'"


Think there just may be 15 in the new set up.

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



Quote: Early Bath "Think there just may be 15 in the new set up.'"


nope,the RFL have catagorically stated that one of you is out.

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Quote: j.c "nope,the RFL have catagorically stated that one of you is out.'"



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Suggestion on the Wakey forum from someone whose knowledge I respect and trust that the clubs are being asked to ignore the difficulties, allow the Crusaders to remain, and allow them a franchise in 2012, despite financial meltdown, but with the teams staying at 14. Or something to that effect.

If it turns out to be the case, either someone is going down, or someone is not coming up, because the clubs are not treated equally.

I want the Crusaders to work, but if you have a licensing system, it has got to be open and transparent, with the rules applied evenly. If not, you just have the RFL acting like emperors and relegating as to their whim.

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Quote: Early Bath "Think there just may be 15 in the new set up.'"


Not a chance. it would break the agreement with sky (14 club comp) and would require the majority of loss making SL clubs voting for a smaller share of Sky money - will never happen.

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Quote: Slugger McBatt "Suggestion on the Wakey forum from someone whose knowledge I respect and trust that the clubs are being asked to ignore the difficulties, allow the Crusaders to remain, and allow them a franchise in 2012, despite financial meltdown, but with the teams staying at 14. Or something to that effect.

If it turns out to be the case, either someone is going down, or someone is not coming up, because the clubs are not treated equally.

I want the Crusaders to work, but if you have a licensing system, it has got to be open and transparent, with the rules applied evenly. If not, you just have the RFL acting like emperors and relegating as to their whim.'"


you've been in SLE to long and your vision has become clouded if you've ever believed that.

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Quote: Leaguefan "Sadly that applies to a lot of "professional clubs" not only in RL.'"
Indeed it does.
Our chairman has gone on record saying that we need 10k average attendance to break even as as example.

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Quote: Roverswall "Indeed it does.
Our chairman has gone on record saying that we need 10k average attendance to break even as as example.'"


ten thousand just to break even is a scary thought.

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Quote: Roverswall "Indeed it does.
Our chairman has gone on record saying that we need 10k average attendance to break even as as example.'"

And he is pretty much spot on with regard to that.
If you work on each ticket sold being worth a tenner to the home club, then 1.3 million in gate revenue is the minimum needed from that.....you could argue that through shirts, merchandise, beer, food etc, that another 1.3 million is available.....and 1.5million from SKY and there you have 4 miilion and change...self sufficiency.

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10,000 to spend full cap though.
I can forsee 15 team league, magic weekend as is with the WCC seeing off the weekend

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Quote: Roverswall "Indeed it does.
Our chairman has gone on record saying that we need 10k average attendance to break even as as example.'"




Very true. Our chairman told me, that for every 1,000 short of the 10,000 someone has to find £100,000.

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



if you cant spend full cap you should not be in that league.
SKY payments-1.2 million a season.
cap i.8 million,there really is no excuse.

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