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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: JB Down Under "Not sure how the arguments relate to crowds, I don't see a FT status as making any difference to crowds outside SL. Marketing, facilities and entertainment is where clubs need to spend money, not FT contracts, imo.'"
Except they dont have any, certainly not enough to do a half decent job of marketing their clubs against their local SL clubs
Dont forget that there is still relegation outside SL
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Dico "Maybe I was slightly harsh in my last comment, you did seem rather pedantic.Considering we see Championship matches on telly every thursday indicates there's already some form of tv rights deal in place, that is so common knowledge my comment should have been taken with the assumption I meant a tv deal that would actually offer the clubs money that would allow them to put structures in place to compete at some form of full time level without an 'O'Connor' if you like.
As you stated that is highly unlikely and that is the point I was trying to make in indicating that the gap will grow exponentially imo between Championship and SL clubs.
I've said elsewhere before I think the Chp will be removed of its best clubs in the coming years for two SL conferences and whats left underneath will be merely a skeleton/feeder league.
If the popularity of RL increases maybe we'll see an increase in Chp interest'"
You were right the first time
Posts loads , says nothing , spent too long in the ' smoke ' , turned into one of those ' clever dick yuppies '
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| Rd 25 Aug 14th-16th
Wigan v Wolves 13,452
Leeds v Cas 16,931
Les Cats v Hull 9,800
Quins v Salford 2,612
Hudds v Bulls TBC
HKR v St's TBC
Wakey v CC TBC
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Rd 19Rd Total Rd 25 Total
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "Except they dont have any, certainly not enough to do a half decent job of marketing their clubs against their local SL clubs
Dont forget that there is still relegation outside SL'"
well dont pretend they are a product to compete with SL then, it isnt.
Sainsburies own brand champagne doesnt try and compete with crystal, and casio dont try to compete with rolex,
instead of trying to compete with SL clubs, why not try and offer and alternative, why not look at making your product a different product rather than simply an inferior one?
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "well dont pretend they are a product to compete with SL then, it isnt.
Sainsburies own brand champagne doesnt try and compete with crystal, and casio dont try to compete with rolex,
instead of trying to compete with SL clubs, why not try and offer and alternative, why not look at making your product a different product rather than simply an inferior one?'"
So Sainsbury Champers isn't inferior to Crystal or a Casio watch isn't inferior to a Rolex ?
Fizzy wine isn't the same as Fizzy wine, a watch isn't a watch
You're crackers
What do you suggest we do , play Lacrosse ?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "well dont pretend they are a product to compete with SL then, it isnt.
Sainsburies own brand champagne doesnt try and compete with crystal, and casio dont try to compete with rolex,
instead of trying to compete with SL clubs, why not try and offer and alternative, why not look at making your product a different product rather than simply an inferior one?'"
So what do you suggest, slogans such as
'Too poor for Super League? Come along and watch a lesser quality version for half the price!'
They'll flock in their tens of thousands.
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "So Sainsbury Champers isn't inferior to Crystal or a Casio watch isn't inferior to a Rolex ?
Fizzy wine isn't the same as Fizzy wine, a watch isn't a watch'"
no sainsbury champers isnt the same, its amuch more inferior product, and it doesnt pretend to compete with crystal, Sainsburys champagne doesnt pretend to offer the same taste, quality or 'experiance' as crystal,
Crystal spend millions of pounds a year differentiating their product from sainsburys own brand, creating an image to persuade people to spend ten twenty maybe a hundred times more on Crystal than sainsburys,
and sainsburys dont pretend that they are the same as Crystal, they dont pretend to be special, nor do they pretend to offer the same as crystal, they are a bargain option and happily market themselves as the bargain option, they have no pretence about being a luxury brand, they dont offer a luxury lifestyle, a luxury image or a premium experiance,
they offer basic value, they over the basic product for a basic price, they are offering a product aimed at different sections of the same market
Quote: Starbug "You're crackers
What do you suggest we do , play Lacrosse ?'" maybe dont pretend you are a competitor for SL, your not, its idiotic to pretend you are,
using an obviously inferior product to try and compete with a better one, is commercial suicide, the championship as a rival to SL simply will never happen,
they can however clearly differentiate themselves. How they choose to do that is another question,
they could try to be the sainsburys own brand champagne to SLs crystal, but SL sells itself on being the cheap option to Premier League football, and the price difference between SL and the lower leagues isnt massive, so that isnt really an option
so they have to find another way to differentiate themselves, they need to be clear as to why someone should choose to come see them rather than go a couple miles down the road, see a bigger game, in a bigger league, with better players for a small amount more money, whether that be as the first opportunity to see the next young stars or whatever, they need to be different
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Maximus Decimus "So what do you suggest, slogans such as
'Too poor for Super League? Come along and watch a lesser quality version for half the price!'
They'll flock in their tens of thousands.'"
or maybe, 'come see your local team bring through the stars of the future'
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "or maybe, 'come see your local team bring through the stars of the future''"
To market as a ' feeder ' club or glorified academy would be financial sucide to almost any club
You are crackers
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "To market as a ' feeder ' club or glorified academy would be financial sucide to almost any club
You are crackers'" really? its not like we are dealing with huge numbers here is it?
the attendances are fairly small to start with, its not like there are going to be thousands leaving is it,
clubs can market themselves as a local team, with local yong stars, the guys who will be playing for GB in 2 or 3 years time, it would raise the standard of the league, with also the possibility of getting the BIG names in for a week or two,
they would have lower rwage costs, more money coming in from SL clubs, probably a few hundred fans from the SL club coming to watch the youngsters.
It would likely make it more difficult to make the jump from the lower leagues to SL, but thats no bad thing, it should be difficult to get into SL, its only for the best
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "Crackers'" cheese
on a seperate note, how are leigh doing? bringing in LOADS of fans are they? making LOTS of money? have HUGE recognition do they? got some international quality youngsters playing for them at the moment?
if so your probably right, they could lose all those things by becoming a feeder club, if not then they arent really going to lose anything are they?
i mean a club which is so desperate to not be a feeder club and is desperate to compete with SL clubs, wouldnt be struggling along at the bottom and signing a player to old to play at SL level would they? their ticket selling signing wouldnt be a past it half back who can no longer cut it in the 2nd worst side in SL would they?
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| Well done the Wakey marketing team, we've come in for huge criticism this season and rightly so IMO, however they've done a tremendous job for this game and got a great result.
7,893 against Celtic deserves a huge round of applause.
Diversity were top drawer aswell.
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NRL expansion? Sometime soon, maybe......:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_9857.jpg |
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| Quote: "Rd 25 Aug 14th-16th
Wigan v Wolves 13,452
Leeds v Cas 16,931
Les Cats v Hull 9,800
Quins v Salford 2,612
Hudds v Bulls TBC
HKR v St's 8,975
Wakey v CC 7,893
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Rd 19Rd Total Rd 25 Total'"
Looking like a great round, just Quins as per usual letting the league down.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "cheese
on a seperate note, how are leigh doing? bringing in LOADS of fans are they? making LOTS of money? have HUGE recognition do they? got some international quality youngsters playing for them at the moment?
if so your probably right, they could lose all those things by becoming a feeder club, if not then they arent really going to lose anything are they?
i mean a club which is so desperate to not be a feeder club and is desperate to compete with SL clubs, wouldnt be struggling along at the bottom and signing a player to old to play at SL level would they? their ticket selling signing wouldnt be a past it half back who can no longer cut it in the 2nd worst side in SL would they?'"
Fine thanks , we actually played reasonably well yesterday and have given ourselves a half decent chance of avoiding relegation
As for the international quality youngsters , no but our reserve team have finished top of their division for the 3 rd successive year
But you're still crackers
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