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| With the derby concept how can it be fair (on the current league standings) for Wigan to have an extra game against St Helens when Warrington are likely to bag 2 points against Salford (no disrespect)?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "how is that fair? seems the most unfair way if im honest. The better you are the more difficult your extra game.
a random draw is the only 'fair' way'"
Because everyone is equally matched is why it's fair.
What's fair about a draw where the top team draws a 4th placed team and 2nd gets a bottom club ?
It's an extra game purely for commercial reasons and warps the league. The only true system is a 26 game season.
Turn the magic weekend into a sevens tournament, the RFL get their money, we get a nice day out and the league is fair again.
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| I don't see where the 'derby' idea is automatically dismissed as Wigan v Saints etc - what's wrong with having Wigan v Leeds, Saints v Wire, Bradford v Cas, Huddersfield v Wakefield etc? All big games in their own right.
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| Quote: Wire_Yed "Because everyone is equally matched is why it's fair.
What's fair about a draw where the top team draws a 4th placed team and 2nd gets a bottom club ?
It's an extra game purely for commercial reasons and warps the league. The only true system is a 26 game season.
Turn the magic weekend into a sevens tournament, the RFL get their money, we get a nice day out and the league is fair again.'"
A 7's tournament is a no go. Clubs don't use many first teamers for the nines comp and not many turn up to watch it...and thats played in the heartlands.
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| Quote: Mark_W "A 7's tournament is a no go. Clubs don't use many first teamers for the nines comp and not many turn up to watch it...and thats played in the heartlands.'"
Make the RFL pass a rule saying the players that play must have played a certain % of games for the first team.
I've never heard or seen any marketing regarding the 9's tournament (i'll be honest didn't even know it existed)
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| Quote: Wire_Yed "
I've never heard or seen any marketing regarding the 9's tournament (i'll be honest didn't even know it existed)'"
It's the comp where teams such as Jamaica, Cumbria, Forces enter and they do the fastest man race. Think Hull are holders.
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| Quote: Leyther_Matt "I don't see where the 'derby' idea is automatically dismissed as Wigan v Saints etc - what's wrong with having Wigan v Leeds, Saints v Wire, Bradford v Cas, Huddersfield v Wakefield etc? All big games in their own right.'"
1) Whatever the merits of Wigan v Leeds and similar games, they're not derbies.
2) There's nothing particularly 'big' about Bradford v Cas (for instance), it's just one more league game like Catalans v Cas.
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| Quote: Big Graeme "Ah, now I get your reasons for the personal attacks
You are a gobe who does nothing but snipe and never backs up what he says. All I've done is show you up for that.
It appears significant in terms of RL what colour politics are involved. Look at Ian McCartney and David Hinchliffe for example and the roots of the game.
Now you are talking complete b0llocks about the COM, having failed to back up your pitch argument with anything proof wise at all. Please support with evidence your 'only so many non football' events line. The COM opened in 2002. GB played there in 2004, Take That, Oassis and Ricky Hatton have all put events on there, so you talk .
I'll ask you again how many events could they have had but declined? Let's be knowing when the RFL asked and when they said no thanks.
Oh so now you are saying Sky would not want to show the event? Remind me again how many stations Sky has, and remind me if SL is played that weekend and shown live on Sky? You said there was wall to wall media coverage of the Magic event, but apart from some promotion by Sky, where else was it really covered? How will this really differ at the end of the month?
By your reckoning the RFL shouldn't have any development officers in London or the South, given that the likes of Streatham and Mitcham folded, and if you want to bring it right up to date that the Broncos went pear shaped and Quins RL can't draw the crowds and are massively in debt. Manchester got one shot with Belle Vue Rangers then? What a crock of crap you talk.
I'll ask again, how much RL is there of any level in Bolton, Bury, Stockport, Trafford, Manchester? How much amateur in Salford? There might well be Championship 1 sides in Swinton, Oldham and Rochdale, but why not push the sport in the whole region outside of the top tier? If a town like Oldham can produce the quality of player it does from such a small amateur scene, how many more could be produced if work was put in to develop the game across the region?
This is one of the reasons cited for the work in London, to increase the player base, but there are very large untapped areas all over the region and across the Pennines.
Frankly you talk crap and clearly know jack about the game, preferring instead to proffer falsities to try and snipe and take a pot shot instead of offering anything yourself.
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| Quote: Wire_Yed "Big G
Scanners
get a room'"
No thanks I have been told he smells of wee
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| Discuss the issues. Cut out the insults. That applies to everyone.
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| Quote: Mark_W "I've just got back from Edinburgh and I have an idea'"
You pay for me to go all that way and to the expense, and I will!!
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| Quote: Scanners "You are a gobe who does nothing but snipe and never backs up what he says. '"
I've backed up everything I've said and people have corroborated some of what I said, I've answered your questions above, you bring nothing new to the table whatsoever.
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| Quote: Fully "It has to be away from the Heartlands but still within decent travelling distance from them. The Midlands is centric to all and would be perfect for me.'"
Ricoh Arena in Coventry. Pity the Coventry Bears didn't work out, as they offered a real breakthrough back in 2004.
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| Quote: Wire_Yed "Because everyone is equally matched is why it's fair.
What's fair about a draw where the top team draws a 4th placed team and 2nd gets a bottom club ?'" it was random, thats just about as fair as you can get.
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It's an extra game purely for commercial reasons and warps the league. The only true system is a 26 game season.
Turn the magic weekend into a sevens tournament, the RFL get their money, we get a nice day out and the league is fair again.'" Nobody wants to give us money and a stadium to do this, because less people would attend a 7s tournament, clubs would put out worse teams and it would no longer be an event.
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| Quote: Scanners "Ricoh Arena in Coventry. Pity the Coventry Bears didn't work out, as they offered a real breakthrough back in 2004.'"
Have Coventry city council offered us the stadium? any money to move it there? do you think people would be more likely to want to spend a weekend in coventry or Edinburgh?
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