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| Quote: BumpyMcbump "Get rid of testing people who are not sick (with tests that cannot detect infection in any case), stop doing track and trace which causes pingdemic and requests people to isolate when they are also not sick and stop restrictions on entry into grounds and the sport might have a chance. All of which are guidelines not laws.
If the RFL and clubs have anything about them and want the sport to get back on its feet theyt have to stand up and be counted, otherwise the sport is done as we know it.'"
There’s a reason why people who aren’t sick are tested. I don’t know what that reason is but I’m sure they are right and you are wrong because remind me what your PHD is? It reminds me of a tweet I once saw that went something along the lines of
Spend 3 years getting a degree
Spend 2 years getting a masters
Spend 2 years getting a PHD
Spend 5 years researching a topic
Spend 3 years collaborating the info required to publish your thesis
Publish your thesis and wait 2 years whilst it’s peer reviewed
Peer review agrees with you
Random idiot on a website like rlfans claims …..bull****
Ergo, you have no idea what you are talking about
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| Quote: Poky "There’s a reason why people who aren’t sick are tested. I don’t know what that reason is but I’m sure they are right and you are wrong because remind me what your PHD is? It reminds me of a tweet I once saw that went something along the lines of
Spend 3 years getting a degree
Spend 2 years getting a masters
Spend 2 years getting a PHD
Spend 5 years researching a topic
Spend 3 years collaborating the info required to publish your thesis
Publish your thesis and wait 2 years whilst it’s peer reviewed
Peer review agrees with you
Random idiot on a website like rlfans claims …..bull****
Ergo, you have no idea what you are talking about'"
Being tested isn't the issue. The most important result should be whether someone is infectious. If one isn't infectious a positive test is irrelevant.
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| So then......getting crowds back to games in the short term (ie, this year)
any ideas?
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| I agree with all this I’ve loved RL all my life but the game is in a massive hole
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| Quote: hxgiant "I agree with all this I’ve loved RL all my life but the game is in a massive hole'"
you think?
It's pretty much done.....wire v wigan should be 12k....13,106 in 2018....13 miles apart, both sides in with a shout of the title....
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| Quote: orangeman "So then......getting crowds back to games in the short term (ie, this year)
any ideas?'"
Ensuring games are in would be a start.
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| Quote: Jack Napier " I think the postponements are hitting the sport hard. It's very hard to get excited about games right now. There is also next to no marketing of games at the moment. I don't like hyperbolic statements such "the game's dead" but it does seem like we're at a low ebb right now.'"
Spot on, but the doom mongers are having a field day.
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| Quote: puroresu_boy "Covid factor but more important the Super League product on display isn't great.
The decline in quality isn't stopping anytime soon.'"
Sadly with Ralph Rimmer running the show and with some Super League clubs thinking of themselves and not the future of the game we have become a rudderless ship
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| Quote: orangeman "you think?
It's pretty much done.....wire v wigan should be 12k....13,106 in 2018....13 miles apart, both sides in with a shout of the title....'"
Lively game tonight.....shame there's not many there (although those that are a making some noise)
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| Quote: orangeman "Lively game tonight.....shame there's not many there (although those that are a making some noise)'"
Sadly it seems the teams don't know how to promote themselves nowadays to get crowds back in to watch the games.The days of putting a large notice in pubs and shop windows has passed and we need to get more into social media and the 21st century
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| Quote: Huddersfield1895 "Sadly it seems the teams don't know how to promote themselves nowadays to get crowds back in to watch the games.The days of putting a large notice in pubs and shop windows has passed and we need to get more into social media and the 21st century'"
Exactly, it's something all clubs need to work smarter at gaining exposure is relatively easy to do.
I think we will see crowds grow as people feel safer attending games.
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| I would normally revel at the opportunity to get into the ribs of little "Wiggin" however I can't being that it is merely a reflection of the times & down to a combination of factors.
When Leigh were announced as winners of the Super League Mugs of the Year *accepting the poisoned chalice* I was expecting a flood of lapsed fans to be clamouring back & buying Season Tickets, how very wrong I was.
What has transpired is that the hardcore & not even all of those, renewed Season Tickets, game day experience was awkward with tiered entry at 30 mins, 45 minutes & 1 hour before kick off, with no pre match entertainment & no bars open for alcohol or soft drinks etc. Most complied with the rules, a good number didn't.
People have lost their jobs or been furloghed or had to take much lower pay or part time work. Many are now terrified of their own shadow due to government systematic "education" of the masses & wouldn't attend a tea party let alone a football/rugby stadium. Many have got into the habit of staying in or have found new hobbies which were allowed during lockdown such as running, walking, cycling or just walking their new dog's.
& the giant behemoth that is the RFL Media,.Marketing & Promotions team simply can't compete with 100 Cricket or Homes Under the Hammer !
The road to recovery may be long & painful.
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| Quote: Dezzies_right_hook "Exactly, it's something all clubs need to work smarter at gaining exposure is relatively easy to do.
I think we will see crowds grow as people feel safer attending games.'"
Not sure that that isn't a contradiction?
Telling the marketing departments of the clubs to be "smarter" on the idea it's easy to attract back fans during a spike in covid cases doesn't seem to me to be a smart thing to say.
But I agree entirely that crowds will come back in full next season if the pandemic is beaten. In fact why shouldn't getting out more be something people will flock to after being stuck in their houses for two years?
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| Quote: BumpyMcbump "How does testing people who are not in primary or secondary care benefit public health?
People who are well do not have either a) any infection, or b) cannot pass on any small amount of whatever it is you think 'it' is, the mere fact that someone is not sick means they can't pass anything on. This is basic science, despite the lies coming out of government regards 'anyone can spread it'.
As for your 125k number, you have actually read the governments own documents regards death by any cause right, decreeing covid on the back of tests that can't detect infection and using a massive list of symptoms for a medical person to 'guess' what someone has died WITH (not of) whilst adding to that number all pneumonia deaths (as per the governments own edict last year) makes that number not just misleading but a lie. Check FOI requests from hospital trusts for a more accurate number of deaths by coronaviruses. University of Glasgow centre for virus studies have data that proves coronaviruses are 7-15% cause for critical respiratory ailments every year, this data is over a 15 year period. Go ask them for the data under an FOI if you don't beleive me.
Hallf a million dead, lol, are you Neil Ferguson, do you have even one iota of understanding of how his numbers were brought about, no, I guess you don't. I'd explain it in detail but you're not interested in the science or the truth about what has happened and will continue to happen.'"
If someone is HIV positive but are not ill or have any symptoms of being ill, ie developed Aids, then they cannot spread it. What an idiot.
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| Quote: rollin thunder "If someone is HIV positive but are not ill or have any symptoms of being ill, ie developed Aids, then they cannot spread it. What an idiot.'"
Not sure that's the same. With every virus there will be viral load and how infectious one is. The reason hiv patients take anti virul drugs is to suppress the viral load and they then become unable to transmit the virus to others.
Why would that not be the same with covid? A test can see just how much of the virus is is present and how much infectious one is. Being told you have covid and to self isolate with no other data is ridiculous. What they should do is provide the numbers behind the result and determine if a person can transmit the virus too others.
Making people self isolate when they pose no risk to anyone else makes no sense at all.
700k people in a week told to isolate from the app lol. Seriously how many of those really need to isolate due to having covid which can be spread?
An absolute fraction I would guess and why I never downloaded that app. I'm not being told to self isolate due to some possible contact with someone who may or not have covid and could have walked past me in the street.
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