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Quote: Donnyman "Don't encourage him, he deliberately puts these posts in for reactions. Does it on TRL as well, and last time the "reaction" was deleted by the mods as that's his oxygen.....Anyway........

There have been some basket cases struggling at the bottom of SL, Celtic Crusaders 2009 and London Broncos 2014. Despite serious money problems they both saw it out. In this case it's different - the owner had the money to see it out. But the game seems to want to ignore that the sum needed was peanuts against the man's wealth and the excuse was that somehow this pandemic makes extremely rich people poor.

The stock market isn't suffering and shares can be traded for cash in a matter of minutes. There is so much disingenous about this pantomime.

But real shock here So Parky, who exactly are referring to on Trl?

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Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "Tbf no one is advocating kicking them out. They took that decision themselves.'"

Tbf I think you reread the posts on this thread.

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Quote: snowie "what a childish post, you really need to grow up No more childish than the one eyed kick Toronto out posts.

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Quote: dboy "They should give (and should have given previously), TWP their full share of the pie.

If they don't bring TWP back in, they will HAVE to give whoever replaces them a full share.

TWP on a full share brings far more to the game (at least potentially), than bringing in any other club, bar perhaps Toronto.'"


Mate, their owner was/is a $$Billionaire and still is. Their owner always wanted to get into the NRL as he is Australian. Recently Melbourne Storm's sole owner decided he'd like to share ownership and invited David Argylle to go join him there. It was in the Sydney Morning Herald.

They tell us Argyle ran out of money but he didn't. They then tell us that he ran out of cash and his $Billions were tied up in his businesses, but it wasn't. He could have sold shares with just a phone call to his broker. I don't remember Covid shutting the stock market down? A full share of the SKY money is only £200,000 a year. Argyle spent $$30,000,000 on Toronto Wolfpack, he just didn't need the peanuts from SKY.

Read the stuff on the new potential owner, £200K is nothing to him as well.

The SKY money is paid by SKY so they can televise English clubs for their English fans who pay their subscriptions. There is no legal or moral requirement for TWP to get English TV money and if you go back through the archives you can find Eric Perez boasting that TWP will get far more TV money from North American TV.

The lack of English TV money had zero to do with Argyle walking....

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Quote: The Silent H "Tbf I think you reread the posts on this thread.'"


How do you kick someone out after they've withdrawn themselves?

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Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "How do you kick someone out after they've withdrawn themselves?'"


Good point but he's trolling as usual, so nothing he writes is serious opinion. Anyway.....

Wolfpack billionaire in mix for share as Storm change ...

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/wolfpa ... 542qn.html

Melbourne Storm has radically changed its ownership structure, with majority owner Campbell halving his stake and negotiations opening with David Argyle, the billionaire Toronto Wolfpack owner"........

TWP collapse is nowt to do with Covid......
Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "How do you kick someone out after they've withdrawn themselves?'"


Good point but he's trolling as usual, so nothing he writes is serious opinion. Anyway.....

Wolfpack billionaire in mix for share as Storm change ...

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/wolfpa ... 542qn.html

Melbourne Storm has radically changed its ownership structure, with majority owner Campbell halving his stake and negotiations opening with David Argyle, the billionaire Toronto Wolfpack owner"........

TWP collapse is nowt to do with Covid......


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Quote: Donnyman "Good point but he's trolling as usual, so nothing he writes is serious opinion. Anyway.....

Wolfpack billionaire in mix for share as Storm change ...



You must believe everything you read in newspapers.
The article you believe was written in February - it is since that date that Covid19 has had an effect on finance...and health.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "So you are agreeing that they were precluded from any monies from Sky ?

And have you not suggested (many times) that they had failed in their attempts to gain any NA TV Deal ??

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They talked about TV deals probably to get approval to enter the League structure here. Perez later waved criticism of no TV deal from North American TV away by explaining he needed at least five Superleague Clubs to be North American to get such a deal. (At that time as usual your club was one destined to make way for the North American dream).

At no time whatsoever (well corrections welcome) did Superleague agree that if TWP came into Superleague they would get the TV money.

But this TV money nonsense is rubbish. What's £200K to a Billionaire??

Way back at the start of the Covid crisis the Stock Markets plunged. But they climbed right back up as the year progressed so the ornery nasty trolling above is just that - nasty trolling. The Billionaire is still worth 95% of what he was worth before covid.

Makes it all the more disgusting he walked and dumped on his players and families.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "So you are agreeing that they were precluded from any monies from Sky ? '"


[i"LiVolsi says he has not spoken to Argyle for months despite a long-standing friendship with him, as he is one of the people owed money. LiVolsi has also pledged to meet the £500,000 owed to players for three months miss pay roll to date, and negotiate the terms of any other outstanding club debts he says are still emerging".
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I'm not aware Livolsi is a $$Billionaire, but somehow he thinks nothing of offering to pay everybody up, and any more money owed.

Yet apparently David Argyle has gone bust? He's now just a Ornery guy. icon_wink.gif

His opportunity at Melbourne Storm to help pour more tens of $$Millions into that club is no doubt waiting for the time this "storm" blows over. STORM Geddit? icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Donnyman "[i"LiVolsi says he has not spoken to Argyle for months despite a long-standing friendship with him, as he is one of the people owed money. LiVolsi has also pledged to meet the £500,000 owed to players for three months miss pay roll to date, and negotiate the terms of any other outstanding club debts he says are still emerging".
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I'm not aware Livolsi is a $$Billionaire, but somehow he thinks nothing of offering to pay everybody up, and any more money owed.

Yet apparently David Argyle has gone bust? He's now just a Ornery guy.

Was that a "yes" or a "dont know" d040.gif

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They're not eligible for any of the government loan, so not exactly sure where they think the money will come from.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Was that a "yes" or a "dont know"
It’s a “I’m xenophobic and I don’t care if it’s argyle or the other guy, I just want Toronto to fail”

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I think being called a troll is actually a mark of honor on these threads.

I mean, who hasn't been called a troll by Donny? It's a good validation that our views are point.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Was that a "yes" or a "dont know" It's a guess, from the king of the blaggers.

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Quote: fartown since 1961 "Well the ‘nuts finally out of the kernel’ Gareth Carvell has thrown the players union behind the beleaguered Wolfpack.

Asking for central funding to save them, an organisation that haven’t paid their players since June '"


Sorry Fartown..

I've had to climb over three trolls (or maybe two as two are the same) to get to your post. Not a nice experience icon_lol.gif

The players union are probably looking at this from the point of view that Toronto offered highly inflated wages, and the opportunity to travel and play in Canada. This opportunity isn't just for the elite players, lads who may not get to be Superleague regulars are getting opportunities with Perez at Ottawa, Livolsy is also wanting to do the same at Toronto and of course living and playing pro in New York has to have it's appeal.

The issue isn't the opportunities these clubs give young players, it's only Argylle who walked away without paying, the new man offers to pay all that up and to be fair I think Perez will honour his commitments too.

Lets hope this can become a discussion and not a troll fest icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif

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