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| Video refe. This is a high speed collision sport not a nano second over analysed game.
For those who demand consistency each tackle should be analysed for infringement.welcome to a 6 hour plus game.
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| The ability to place a foot in touch and play the ball dead is very negative - that should go.
The ref's call has been proven time and again to be egregious - that also needs removing.
The only other thing is to take control of the ruck back from cheating coaches and players - police and enforce it to the letter of the laws until the infringements stop and the game can flow again.
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| I personally wouldn't mind an extra substitute on the bench, but he must be in the under 19's or an acamedy player.
Where the use of subs would be less tactical, it could keep some players more fresh for the entire league AND give young people a chance at the highest level.
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| Quote: fun time frankie "No relegation
Commencing start of 2017 season .....
I will go for that.
Dragging penalty to be rigidly & consistently enforced, it is still going on & it gets my goat.
Foot over in goal diffusing kicks, abolish it.
Allow attacking team to play ball as fast as they like from a tap 20, none of this waiting for defence to retreat & set that some refs allow.
Cannonball tackles & swinging full weight judo leg wrap tackles = instant red & minimum 4 match ban.
Remove Refs call & charge the VR to make it.
VR to challenge/over rule any missed incident of a serious player safety nature *although this probably already happens*
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As judder man rightly said .... try by hand only ! & none of this torso nonesense.
2nd Edit.
2 attempts only at forming a proper scrum then penalty loss of ball against offending team & tap ptb to opposition.
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| on the dead ball scooping, do people not remember the season about 3 years ago where they got rid so the ball had to hit the floor or advert boards or something outside of the line, people hated that as it slowed the game down, so they changed it back.
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| Quote: Ste100Centurions "2 attempts only at forming a proper scrum then penalty loss of ball against offending team & tap ptb to opposition.'"
That's a good call - sick to death of seeing the ref directing players to form a proper scrum, like he's coaching a group of U11's.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "clark and ratchford are 2 of the worst for it and even hill has started doing it.'"
Jeez.....you do realise you have Fonua playing for your team? I thought he had epilepsy during the LLS game.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "clark and ratchford are 2 of the worst for it and even hill has started doing it.'"
And Tomkins started it.
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| Quote: Judder Man "1. Try must be scored by hand, no forearm, elbow, shoulder torso etc.
2. Remove foot over the dead ball line rule
3. Allow quick 25m tap without setting onsides.
4. When players ball carrying arm hits the ground on the tackle no further wrestling or turning on the back, offence concede extra tackle.
5. Stop referee "coaching"
6 Allow partial contested scrums, half back feeds towards there own front row.
7 Reduce back chat arguing to referee, offence concede extra tackle. (Excluding Team Captain)
8. Set time limits on drop outs under the posts and penalties to touch. Out of time on drop outs attacking team PTB on the 25 metre line. Out of time penalties then PTB at penalty position.
9. More yellow cards and remove "on report", match is reviewd anyway.
10 Touch judges to have more control on the offside at the PTB.
11. Players (attacking) moving off the mark at the PTB forfeit a tackle from the count.
12. No 10 metre encroachment offside rule if ball is kicked from within the back 25 metre area.'"
1. I dont really think this is much of a problem is it?
2. the foot over the deadball line is a bit of an annoyance but completely in line with the rules as per everywhere else on the field. I dont think we should introduce inconsistency.
5. This is a criticism i hear often, but i honestly can't agree with it. There are many rules and interpretations we have which are down to the referee's discretion. The referee sets the 10m, the referee decides when a tackle is complete, the referee decides when a player is held, it is simply going to lead to more penalties that players can't avoid if the ref keeps that to himself.
I like the idea of the extra tackle as a punishment, though i fear for a few we could end up with 15 tackle sets. I think it is a good idea though to help clean up the game because a penalty can sometimes seem an egregious punishment for a minor infringement whereas a single tackle doesnt make that much of a difference but so would be used more and would see the game tidied up a bit. Id go a step further and introduce a green card which is a 5 minute sin bin for any head high challenge and any time a team committed two offences in one possession.
obviously get rid of the dumbass refs call, i have no idea how that wasnt laughed out of the room when first suggested. Also let VR's intercede whenever necessary, they are ostensibly trained and competent officials.
I think one thing we should look at aswell, is removing the necessity for the markers to be square. This would allow us to be stricter on the speed of the ruck without turning it in to a scooting game, it would also remove a huge reason why players step off the mark and mitigate the benefit of doing so
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| One thing I think about the video ref is that perhaps they should not be able to view play slowed down. The problem is that once they have that ability they view every single element of a try in slow motion. I'd far rather mistakes be made than endless slow-mo replays.
Another change is that I'd introduce a benefit of the doubt system - again I'd far rather see magical play lead to slightly lucky tries (e.g. some vague hint of obstruction somewhere) than have entertaining play rules out for some microscopic breach.
Cleaning up the PTB in SL is a must. It might not have the quality in terms of players as the NRL, but there's absolutely no excuse for allowing something entirely under the control of the RFL leading to the spectacle being diminished.
Not a rule change bu the Academy/dual reg system is a farce. Bring back reserve grade (or at least U23 or similar with a couple of overage players). If a team can't afford it and drops out of SL as result, they don't belong there. Similarly a proper Academy.
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| Whilst matches are being reviewed for foul play they could also look out for players trying to milk penalties. You then have a toting up system. Reach so many you get a warning, so many more would result in a ban.
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| the one thing i want changing, is the 1 minute allowance for a conversion before the clock is stopped. Players just stand around, talk to the trainer etc. If the clock stopped, then it may not hurry them up, but it wouldnt detract from the playing time
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "1. I dont really think this is much of a problem is it?
2. the foot over the deadball line is a bit of an annoyance but completely in line with the rules as per everywhere else on the field. I dont think we should introduce inconsistency.
5. This is a criticism i hear often, but i honestly can't agree with it. There are many rules and interpretations we have which are down to the referee's discretion. The referee sets the 10m, the referee decides when a tackle is complete, the referee decides when a player is held, it is simply going to lead to more penalties that players can't avoid if the ref keeps that to himself.
I like the idea of the extra tackle as a punishment, though i fear for a few we could end up with 15 tackle sets. I think it is a good idea though to help clean up the game because a penalty can sometimes seem an egregious punishment for a minor infringement whereas a single tackle doesnt make that much of a difference but so would be used more and would see the game tidied up a bit. Id go a step further and introduce a green card which is a 5 minute sin bin for any head high challenge and any time a team committed two offences in one possession.
obviously get rid of the dumbass refs call, i have no idea how that wasnt laughed out of the room when first suggested. Also let VR's intercede whenever necessary, they are ostensibly trained and competent officials.
I think one thing we should look at aswell, is removing the necessity for the markers to be square. This would allow us to be stricter on the speed of the ruck without turning it in to a scooting game, it would also remove a huge reason why players step off the mark and mitigate the benefit of doing so'"
Agree with most of that. I like the last one about allowing markers to be not square. As long as they're still close to the play the ball id be all for that change.
It's probably already been mentioned but I'd also have the ball played with the foot. This should slow the play the ball a bit and hopefully alleviate the need for some of the wrestling.
I'd also change the point at which defences and markers can move up from the point at which the ball is touched by the foot to the point at which the acting half touches the ball. A small change but it should give attacks a bit more time and space.
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| There is much (justified) outrage at the attempted milking of penalties - I would suggest that's largely a symptom of the inordinate amount of time defenders are allowed to wrestle the tackled player; cleaning up the ruck could have the added benefit of reducing the need to thrash around, or deliberately trip over a defender in an attempt to demonstrate that you've been impeded.
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| Every single rugby fan I speak to wants the ruck tidying in Super League, the NRL is much slicker at that side of the game.
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