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| 1. Lockyer
2. Irvine
3. Meninga
4. Miles
5. Anderson
6. Fulton
7. Johns
8. Beetson
9. Walters
10. Civoneciva
11. Sironen
12. Price (slightly out of position)
13. Fittler
May need to give a lttle more thought to wingers and second rows.
The four people who are not negotiable for me are Lockyer (somewhere on the pitch), Meninga, Fulton and Fittler. To me those 4 are head and shoulders above other Kangaroos of recent years.
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| 1.Darren Lockyer
2.Billy Slater (know he's a full back but he would do quite well on the wing)
3.Meninga
4.Reg Gasnier
5.Eric Grothe senior
6.Wally Lewis
7.Allan Langer/Andrew Johns can't make my mind up
8.Arthur Beetson
9.Cameron Smith
10.Petero Civoniceva
11.Bradley Clyde
12.Paul Harragon
13.Brad Fitler/Laurie Daley Hard choice
14.Benny Elias
15.Brad Fitler/Laurie Daley (depends who misses out on starting)
16.Mark Carroll
17.Gordan Tallis
Also I would have in the squad Steve Roach and Peter Sterling
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| Quote: Sheldon "When your picking the side you start with
7. Johns'"
You sir, are correct. And note that Andrew Johns is the only scrum half who is a member of the iconic group known as the Immortals.
Those who are picking teams -- often teams of 17 rather than Kangaroo squads of 26 --- and who omit any of those playing from 1963 on who are among the Australian Immortals -- Arthur Beetson, Reg Gasnier, Bobby Fulton, Graeme Langlands, Wally Lewis, Johnny Raper or Andrew Johns -- obviously have never seen the particular omitted Immortal play.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "You sir, are correct. And note that Andrew Johns is the only scrum half who is a member of the iconic group known as the Immortals.
Those who are picking teams -- often teams of 17 rather than Kangaroo squads of 26 --- and who omit any of those playing from 1963 on who are among the Australian Immortals -- Arthur Beetson, Reg Gasnier, Bobby Fulton, Graeme Langlands, Wally Lewis, Johnny Raper or Andrew Johns -- obviously have never seen the particular omitted Immortal play.'"
I saw all those players play but had to omit some. I thought long and hard about Gasnier.
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| Slater
Grothe
Meninga
Inglis
Ferguson
Lewis
Sterling
Lazarus
Smith
Webke
Cleal
Pearce
Clyde
Lockyer
Sironen
Roach
Young
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| Quote: Sesquipedalian "Slater
Grothe
Meninga
Inglis
Ferguson
Lewis
Sterling
Lazarus
Smith
Webke
Cleal
Pearce
Clyde
Lockyer
Sironen
Roach
Young'"
Peter Sterling has publicly admitted that he was not as good as Andrew Johns.
No Arthur Beetson = Not Serious
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "It is almost impossible to pick a top 13 or top 17 Australian team because there have been so many great players. So I have chosen a 26 man Kangaroo squad to make it easier.
I have chosen some players out of their best positions, though in positions that they did actually play at times (e.g. Inglis, Fulton, O'Connor), in order to fit them in a squad that they deserve to be in.
FBWGCEFEHBLFSRPRHKHonourable Mention
After reading all the comments I could countenance three changes to my original list and still sleep comfortably tonight.
Those three changes would be Darren Lockyer for Brett Kenny, Bradley Clyde for Ray Price, and Glen Lazarus for John O'Neill.
The Kangaroo squad would then beFBWGCEFEHBLFSRPRHKHonourable Mention: Ken Thornett, John Ferguson, Gene Miles, Jarryd Hayne, Brett Kenny, Brad Fittler, Laurie Daley, Peter Sterling, Alan Langer, Ray Price, Gordon Tallis, Petero Civinoceva, Paul Gallen, John O'Neill.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Peter Sterling has publicly admitted that he was not as good as Andrew Johns.
No Arthur Beetson
Oh sorry, I didn't realise we could only pick the team you approved of
In MY Opinion, Sterling was a better player than Johns whom In MY opinion is overrated.
I never saw that much of Beetson so haven't included him in my team
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "After reading all the comments I could countenance three changes to my original list and still sleep comfortably tonight.
Those three changes would be Darren Lockyer for Brett Kenny, Bradley Clyde for Ray Price, and Glen Lazarus for John O'Neill.
The Kangaroo squad would then beFBWGCEFEHBLFSRPRHKHonourable Mention
I would have that squad but IMO you have got to have Brad Fitler, Benny Elias and Paul 'the chief' Harragon in there.
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| I agree - Fittler is a must.
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| Quote: Dutchy the fax fan "I would have that squad but IMO you have got to have Brad Fitler, Benny Elias and Paul 'the chief' Harragon in there.'"
Freddy maybe, although he wouldn't be in my personal top 3 either at 5/8 or lock.
Harrogon no chance, and Elias shouldn't even make the tour as boot boy. If you wanted a hard hooker rather than just a grubby relic from a bygone age, then allow me to recommend the rake from the Australian team of the century - Noel (Ned) Kelly.
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| Quote: Dally "I agree - Fittler is a must.'"
And who does he replace from among the team I have selected?
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "And who does he replace from among the team I have selected?'"
Play him at Loose Forward.
He was different class to your two choices. He had more than twice as many caps as Clyde and 11 more than Raper. He was the third most capped Aussie when he retired. He was the most capped NSW Origin player when he retired. When games were tight he always came up with the match winning play - as did Lockyer and Meninga in their day. To me that's what makes a great player - not flash Harry's who score a hatful against weak opposition (like certain British "superstars"icon_wink.gif. To me those 3 along with Fulton who was ahead of his time are the best Australian players I have seen.
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| Quote: Dally "Play him at Loose Forward.
He was different class to your two choices. He had more than twice as many caps as Clyde and 11 more than Raper. He was the third most capped Aussie when he retired. He was the most capped NSW Origin player when he retired. When games were tight he always came up with the match winning play - as did Lockyer and Meninga in their day. To me that's what makes a great player - not flash Harry's who score a hatful against weak opposition (like certain British "superstars"icon_wink.gif. To me those 3 along with Fulton who was ahead of his time are the best Australian players I have seen.'"
Johnny Raper is an Immortal of many years standing. So you would have to dump Bradley Clyde to make a space for Bradley Fittler.
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| Filter, as good as he was, wasn't as good a back rower as Bradley Clyde.
He was a great stand off and a very good loose forward but certainly not better than Raper, Ray Price, Clyde
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