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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: DemonUK "More ballcocks I think, what has 300k the council and the lease held by the RFL got in common....nothing. The loan was taken out after OK had taken over and don't the RFL hold the lease from earlier, so how can the lease pay off the loan???
650k was withheld I thought not 1 million'"
What has the council loan got to do with the RFL?
Roughly £650k, twice has been taken from the bulls, that's closer to £1.3m
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "What has the council loan got to do with the RFL?
Roughly £650k, twice has been taken from the bulls, that's closer to £1.3m'"
Nothing has been taken, it was ' offered '
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "Nothing has been taken, it was ' offered ''"
Hilarious
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Hilarious'"
Yes, I know
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| Quote: Starbug "Nothing has been taken, it was ' offered ''"
Yeah, offered in the same way the man being mugged offers to give the mugger his possessions.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: roofaldo2 "Yeah, offered in the same way the man being mugged offers to give the mugger his possessions.'"
Bradford are hardly victims in all this, they weren't forced into it
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "Bradford are hardly victims in all this, they weren't forced into it'"
When you consider the alternative they pretty much were
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "When you consider the alternative they pretty much were'"
The alteratives being?
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "When you consider the alternative they pretty much were'"
Of course, I keep forgetting how ' Iconic ' they are
So now we have a structure based on ' Bribery ' even if it just delays the inevitable, SL just keeps getting better and better
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| Quote: roofaldo2 "Yeah, offered in the same way the man being mugged offers to give the mugger his possessions.'"
This analogy makes no sense.
First OK did not have to get involved at all. He had a free choice. No gun to his head.
Second he could have taken over the Bulls and dropped 1 or 2 divisions. No Sky money there but also a massively reduced cost base. No gun to his head here.
No one forced Khan and Sutcliffe (a man with no apparent business acumen)to offer to waive 1 year of Sky money to stay in SL.No gun to his head once again.
The RFL judged that Khan and Sutcliffe had the resources and expertise to run a successful SL club receiving 50% sky money for 2 years. Dreadful call by the OK team and the RFL.
There's no coercion here (as in a mugging) just plenty of incompetence and poor judgement.
Unfortunate Bulls employees have paid with their jobs, OK has been hit hard financially and the RFL fat cats continue with impunity !
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "What has the council loan got to do with the RFL?
Roughly £650k, twice has been taken from the bulls, that's closer to £1.3m'"
You talk soo much brown stuff its unreal. Up to now they have only had 650k withheld. Also I never said the 300k had anything to do with the RFL. I actually said it had nothing to do with the RFL. They still have the lease so OK Bulls can-t use that to pay off a loan which you stated. So once again you contradict yourself. So I'll ask again has the 300k to the council been repaid.
can't wait for smokeys next trip up his own backside.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Saint Simon "The alteratives being?'"
Dont be holding your breath waiting for an answer from Smokey on this, and if it comes you wont understand it
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| Quote: Starbug "Dont be holding your breath waiting for an answer from Smokey on this, and if it comes you wont understand it
I didnt expect any! there were very reasonable options, ala wakey. or drop a league. Not ideal, but they could at least build again and grow back to where they belong with P&R back
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: DemonUK "You talk soo much brown stuff its unreal. Up to now they have only had 650k withheld. Also I never said the 300k had anything to do with the RFL. I actually said it had nothing to do with the RFL. They still have the lease so OK Bulls can-t use that to pay off a loan which you stated. So once again you contradict yourself. So I'll ask again has the 300k to the council been repaid.
can't wait for smokeys next trip up his own backside.'"
I never mentioned anything to do with the council, that is entirely down to you.
Your argument that Bradford have only had £650k taken from them as of now, as they only 'will' have another £650k taken from them is so poor I'm embarressed for you. To pretend that Bradford having £650k taken from next years income has nothing to do with a projected shortfall next year is simply stupid.
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Saint Simon "I didnt expect any! there were very reasonable options, ala wakey. or drop a league. Not ideal, but they could at least build again and grow back to where they belong with P&R back'"
Doing a 'wakey' at that point would have been utterly pointless. By the time Omar Kahn was involved that obviously wasn't an option, the time had passed it wasn't in any way an option.
Relegating would have and will (should they be ever be relegated) absolutely destroy. Bradford, they would have no team as their players would have left, their academy would be dismantled, and they would need to run a championship squad, on championship income, in front of championship attendances, and championship sponsors, with The huge overheads they carry now. Pro RL in Bradford would be dead
There were three possible outcomes, try to struggle on with 50% sky money and maybe survive,
Go into the championships with a club in no way set up for semi-pro RL
Or close the club down.
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