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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "What makes you think that whoever let Toronto in would want to be shot? Has Mr Robert Elstone or any of the Super League chairmen ever shown signs of suicidal tendencies?'"
Probably not, but then again they don't read your posts every day.
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| Quote: little wayne69 "Probably not, but then again they don't read your posts every day.'"
Wrong.
As an acquaintance of the esteemed Ian’s Lenagan, I can assure you that he is an avid reader of rugby league websites.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "What makes you think that whoever let Toronto in would want to be shot? Has Mr Robert Elstone or any of the Super League chairmen ever shown signs of suicidal tendencies?'"
Once again you can't grasp the facts. SL don't want TWP - they openly said so but you just don't read anything up? SL are stuck with a ruling that they have to accept the winners of the Championship being promoted during this current SKY TV deal. To infer the SL chairmen "let them in" presumably on the basis they wanted them is just plain wrong. Top chairmen wrote articles saying they did not want TWP. They tried to change the format a year ago to block TWP. The current system of P & R was created by Wood and Solly of the RFL. NOT by SL.
As it stands now the next SKY deal will NOT INVOLVE THE RFL and therefore Superleague will be able to dictate the format and that means Hull, HKR, Leeds, Cas, Wakey, Salford, Wigan, Wire, Saints and Huddersfield will decide who is in the top division 2022 which may only be 10 clubs. So now you know who will have the biggest say over the next SKY deal, surely even you can work out the likely format? If you can't, read the opening sentence of this paragraph again and again until then centime drops.
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| Quote: Mr Dog "Catalans had a TV deal and there was a renewal offer made. Elstone asked for more and was told "non". Let's hope his negotiating skills prove to be a bit more successful with Sky....'"
Superleague wanted Toulouse to be promoted to Superleague in order to advance the French TV deal. With respect before you have a go at Elstone consider that TWP's promotion to SL, which SL clubs didn't want but could not stop, is what really put the kybosh on it. Think of it this way- a french TV company are showing Les Cats and along comes Toulouse - don't you think they would want both of these clubs and when a fake American club is promoted instead, they would be quite angry about that??
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Wrong.
As an acquaintance of the esteemed Ian’s Lenagan, I can assure you that he is an avid reader of rugby league websites.'"
I live less than half a mile from Michael Carters dad Frank in Notton near Wakefield not sure though if that makes me an acquaintance of his, I don't know if he's an avid reader of anything so I can't give you the same assurances, as a matter of interest how long has this Lenagan fella lived in Chorley.
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| Quote: WelshRL&RUwatcher "So are most on here in favour of Catalonia and Toronto not being in the British system?'"
Websites are low numbers. Hull Daily Mail did a survey of a very large number of RL fans and 80% didn't want Toronto. I have no such survey for Catalan. Neither club is a member club anyway so they are only here as guests. Perez realised this and therefore bought Hemel Stags membership for Ottowa. He knows TWP and Les Cats are likely to go if Superleague drops to 10 on the next smaller SKY deal, so he's trying to ensure Ottawa don't get booted out as "guests" not that Ottawa exist yet.
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| Quote: Donnyman "Once again you can't grasp the facts. SL don't want TWP - they openly said so but you just don't read anything up? SL are stuck with a ruling that they have to accept the winners of the Championship being promoted during this current SKY TV deal. To infer the SL chairmen "let them in" presumably on the basis they wanted them is just plain wrong. Top chairmen wrote articles saying they did not want TWP. They tried to change the format a year ago to block TWP. The current system of P & R was created by Wood and Solly of the RFL. NOT by SL.
As it stands now the next SKY deal will NOT INVOLVE THE RFL and therefore Superleague will be able to dictate the format and that means Hull, HKR, Leeds, Cas, Wakey, Salford, Wigan, Wire, Saints and Huddersfield will decide who is in the top division 2022 which may only be 10 clubs. So now you know who will have the biggest say over the next SKY deal, surely even you can work out the likely format? If you can't, read the opening sentence of this paragraph again and again until then centime drops.
Not being funny here Donny,but you need to grasp that JEAN is just a fake, who lives in Stralia,and couldn't give two hoots really, who is just trolling and a WUM to get a reaction.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "
Bit harsh there regarding French players.Catalan squad was roughly 50/50 with French / Non French players and there are also a smattering of French players in SL with other clubs, Toulouse also have some decent local players.However, the game has been played in Catalonia for many years and it's not as though they were going from a "cold start".
As for TV deals, if Catalan, with a decent level of local interest, are struggling, just how difficult will it be for Toronto to secure their own deal'"
The Catalans put 12 English and antipodeans into their first choice 1-17 players. That is after 14 years of French player professional development. Mate, I love them but I love the facts more. As for TWP even the TWP clubs coach and chairman will tell you they don't find a paying TV deal difficult....They admitted it was impossible.
We can be as sentimental as we want but sadly Les Catalans aren't now providing TV money which is the fault of TWP. Had Toulouse gone up the French TV deal may have gone up. TWP have spoiled matters for France so expect for 2022 if SL drops to 10 English clubs only, they will likely sign what few quality French players Catalans have left then.
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| Quote: Cokey "Not being funny here Donny,but you need to grasp that JEAN is just a fake, who lives in Stralia,and couldn't give two hoots really, who is just trolling and a WUM to get a reaction.
I understand this and I understand Steph may be the same poster.
But I don't like the approach of just getting nasty and insulting with him, which I am sure is what he wants? Better to reply to his posts with the actual facts of the matter he/she may raise.
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| Quote: Donnyman "I understand this and I understand Steph may be the same poster.
But I don't like the approach of just getting nasty and insulting with him, which I am sure is what he wants? Better to reply to his posts with the actual facts of the matter he/she may raise.'"
Quite,but he/she will still ignore your facts.
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| Quote: Cokey "Quite,but he/she will still ignore your facts.
Let me put it this way, their posts are good vehicles for demonstrating to others on here their nonsensical soundbites lack substance, and the actual truth is something else more substantial and realistic. Let's face it some of the rubbish they spout has actually appeared in the RL Press. Both Editors of the Monday RL Rags predict North America is the future and so do Jean and Steph.
OH hang on
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| Quote: Cokey "Quite,but he/she will still ignore your facts.
Your quite right Cokey, they (stephie and jeannie)will deliberately refuse to recognise, and ignore his facts, while at the same time fail to offer anything credible by way of an alternative.
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| Quote: little wayne69 "I live less than half a mile from Michael Carters dad Frank in Notton near Wakefield not sure though if that makes me an acquaintance of his, I don't know if he's an avid reader of anything so I can't give you the same assurances, as a matter of interest how long has this Lenagan fella lived in Chorley.'"
Sorry to have to inform you of this, but your logic is as bad as your spelling and grammar.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Sorry to have to inform you of this, but your logic is as bad as your spelling and grammar.'"
Why is that mon ami/comrade, did my post get lost in translation?, or are you just being slightly over zealous in your position as the self appointed chief of the rlfans grammar police.
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| Quote: Donnyman "But I don't like the approach of just getting nasty and insulting with him, which I am sure is what he wants? '"
You'd be surprised at how nasty and insulting the troll can be once it's been shown up for what it is, eh Jean
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