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Quote: SimonBarrett "Make your mind up.....thought this thread was about the RFL allowing this through.....not about the number of overseas players???

"The RFl should stick to their criteria and not allow Winterstein in. "

"This is not anti wakey. For eg I have no objection to Stosic being given the okay."
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I think an established SL club signing a reserve grade NRL player is very poor. Likewise them having 10 or so non UK players. You think it is acceptable...bully for you.

You may think signing FW is progress for your club. I think iit is a backward step.

We differ.

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More info on Frank, he played five times for the Bulldogs 1st grade last year getting decent reviews in all his games.

He finished the season strongly holding down a place in the 1st grade for the last three rounds of the rgular season.

Frank Winterstein appearances for Canterbury Bulldogs 2008
Round 13 v Newcastle
Round 15 v Canberra
Round 24 v Parramatta
Round 25 v Canberra
Round 26 v Brisbane

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Quote: Marsdengiant "I think an established SL club signing a reserve grade NRL player is very poor. Likewise them having 10 or so non UK players. You think it is acceptable...bully for you.

You may think signing FW is progress for your club. I think iit is a backward step.

We differ.'"


That's absolutely fine......why did you just not say that on your original post, rather than try and make some lame point, which by the way was incorrect and just showed your ignorance to Rugby League and Visas in this country!!!

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Quote: SmokeyTA "like which ones?

the one which got stuffed in the trinations final at elland road?

the one which lost all three tests to the Kangaroos second string?

or the ones of the early to mid nineties, when we had very few imports as a comparison and plenty of union players

btw, when was the last british coach to coach a GB/England side to a 3-0 series whitewash?'"


Yes all those, that's the point ffs NO IMPROVEMENT eusa_wall.gif

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It's pretty clear that Wakefield have been hit hard by the unfortunate loss of Watene and Moore, coupled with Sculthorpe's on going injuries. Winterstein is a big forward with an off-loading game which will serve as a temporary replacement until fingers crossed Moore will be back.

Winterstein has come in to allow the youngsters at Wakefield to develop. Players such as Bibb, Pitts and Ferguson all first team players should not just be dumped on the field and asked to play week in week out. These lads are still developing, and as such shouldn't be thrust into the team recklessly. They need slow progression, to ensure their bodies are upto it and they aren't brunt out and pick up injuries which could shorten or even destroy their careers.

Wakefield has spent alot of money on youngsters in their academy and the standard of the players being produced is steadily increasing. However, it would be reckless of the club to throw in players who are simply not developed yet.

John Kear constantly searches through the lower leagues and watches numerous players on a weekly basis. He isn't afraid to bring in players who he believes are good enough, as was proven with Blaymire, Blanch and Fox. If he felt there was a player availabe who could do a job for Wakefield i'm sure he would have made an offer assuming that suits the club financially, the player and the player's club.

I trust our English coach, and as supporters, we understand the club is going through a tough time. If Winterstein can help us to ensure or youngsters have a prolonged career whilst covering for our injuries then i'm all for it.

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Quote: The Clan "More info on Frank, he played five times for the Bulldogs 1st grade last year getting decent reviews in all his games.

He finished the season strongly holding down a place in the 1st grade for the last three rounds of the rgular season.

Frank Winterstein appearances for Canterbury Bulldogs 2008
Round 13 v Newcastle
Round 15 v Canberra
Round 24 v Parramatta
Round 25 v Canberra
Round 26 v Brisbane'"


Please don't burden it with reason, it can't handle the truth.

It really is looking silly now.

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TBF, i kinda think it strengthen his point


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Quote: SimonBarrett "That's absolutely fine......why did you just not say that on your original post, rather than try and make some lame point, which by the way was incorrect and just showed your ignorance to Rugby League and Visas in this country!!!'"


I did not see that the reserve grader played a developmental game back in 2006 that his own club did not think was worth recording. wow.

That you are resorting to such a signing shows a club going backwards. You may think otherwise.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "btw, when was the last british coach to coach a GB/England side to a 3-0 series whitewash?'"


Tony Smith.


Edit: not sure if this is a 'matter of fact question' I can't be bothered reading this boring squabbling.

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Quote: The Clan "More info on Frank, he played five times for the Bulldogs 1st grade last year getting decent reviews in all his games.

He finished the season strongly holding down a place in the 1st grade for the last three rounds of the rgular season.

Frank Winterstein appearances for Canterbury Bulldogs 2008
Round 13 v Newcastle
Round 15 v Canberra
Round 24 v Parramatta
Round 25 v Canberra
Round 26 v Brisbane'"


So he managed less than less than 20% of games. I expect in 2007 it was even fewer.

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Quote: Marsdengiant "So he managed less than less than 20% of games. I expect in 2007 it was even fewer.'"


Why dont you research this fact, therefore you would be able to back up your boring arguments with some kind of reason, instead of assuming all kind of things in your original post, although for a hudds fan thats usually too hard icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: mwildcats "Why dont you research this fact, therefore you would be able to back up your boring arguments with some kind of reason, instead of assuming all kind of things in your original post, although for a hudds fan thats usually too hard '"



Thats poor for you

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: Gazemous "Tony Smith.


Edit

wasnt British when he won it was he? icon_wink.gif
either way, i did mean prior to Smith,

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Quote: mwildcats "Why dont you research this fact, therefore you would be able to back up your boring arguments with some kind of reason, instead of assuming all kind of things in your original post, although for a hudds fan thats usually too hard
The Bulldogs did not think his developmental game(s) worthy of record. They have a point.

He is a reserve grader that played in less than 20% of games. Very poor bringing such players into SL. You pretend that this signing shows a club on the up...for a wakey fan that should not be too hard. icon_biggrin.gif

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: vastman "Yes all those, that's the point ffs NO IMPROVEMENT
except there was an improvement

under Hanley, Goodway, Larder Noble we failed to win a series,

in Smith we did we won one 3-0, something we hadnt done since the early 90's

when we had many many more British players in the league, and many fewer clubs relying on overseas talent

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