So in your utopian world, Wigan, St’s & Leeds would champion the North of England, with the remaining clubs from where exactly?

Scotland, Ireland, The Midlands or what about another team from London - they’ve only been trying for nigh on thirty years, with unparalleled success.

The RFL are the instigators of all this, the same motley crew who, failed to dock Wigan the agreed points deduction a couple of years back, followed by having no credible punishment in place when Hull played an ineligible player in the C.C last year and finally fast tracking a team into S.L to prove how easy it is to expand the game

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Feel free to "have a pop" if it makes you feel better. My feeling of some sympathy to the club is regardless of if they have strayed outside of the rules. I think that they've been thrown in at the deep end ill prepared and should have had support from the RFL. This situation is simply an embarrassment to the game.



Were they? It's just that the article doesn't say that. Where did you get this information from?

god your as daft on here as on the celtic website

professional rl is a business, you see, and concentrate here, people get paid for doing it, you got that?? paid!

now, and try and keep up, i think you will find that just about every legal enterprise who pays people is a business in some form or other, they make money, its called income,
and they pay people and bills, thats called expenditure, you ok so far?

and......and this is the big one, some one has to say that if the spending money bit is greater than the earning money bit they are going to foot the bill.............soooooooooo every rugby league club is a business unless they never pay any bills.


your getting this free this one time only, next time you get big words and i charge.. ok?

But one club was refused a SL licence last year for poor financial mismanagement. Do you think Celtic will be refused for 2012 if they are found guilty of employing people without correct Visas?

have been allowing Celtic to flout rules to get them into a position to enter SL

They are doing it again at this moment in the Championship with Toulouse , it doesn't work , when they have to remove these loopholes the relevant club then struggles and end up in the mess we seem to have in Wales

Let's not forget that there was already massive established and arguably world class RL talent in New Zealand before The Warriors came to fruition.

I don't know. I can't predict the future.

It was a question solely aimed at the (thankfully) small band of anti-expantionistas on this thread.

ok lets pick an all time rl welsh team
oh hang on most of them ended up at widnes in the 80's, oh deary me that sort of buggers up there arguments doesnt it... i never thought of that

Which is exactly why we have the shambles we currently have , because anybody with an iota of business sense would have seen that the Celtic Crusaders are no where near a strong enough business to be trying to compete with the other businesses in SL

And who decided to put them there ?

The people who are running the whole business , so what does that tell you about them ?

So I suggest you use those ' big ' words you know and pen a letter to the RFL explaining why they should not have put a totally unready club into SL and why they cannot force the expansion of the game as they seem to think they can

Let's not forget that 17/24 of the World Cup winning squad didn't play for the Warriors.

The talent pool was already there.

sometimes you get to a point where you need to sink or swim, thats where celtic were, they werent an organically grown club, with small increases in success bring small increases in income constantly pushed forward by a willing public,

simply because that has never, and isnt ever likely to happen with any club, anywhere, not even the heartland clubs




if you look just next to that article on the top right hand corner you will see a link to a story from 16th july when the UKBA were already investigating this

on that point i agree, but would you really put widnes leight and halifax in that catagory, and more importantly would you have done 2 years ago, when submissions were made??? face facts mr m jackson looked like the best business in the world 4 months ago, you buying shares now?