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Ah, so after selling a player to stave off administration, Wakefield are now getting uppity about players being tapped up.

Oh, and they're selling players again.

Anything to be gained?

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Quote: Diablo1967 "Ah, so after selling a player to stave off administration, Wakefield are now getting uppity about players being tapped up.

Oh, and they're selling players again.

Anything to be gained?'"
I'd expect another offer for Kirmond to go in.

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Quote: Superted "I wonder if Rangi Chase and Brian Noble are being paid any 'naming rights' fees for their names to be used?

Of course, one would assume if they were, this would have nothing to do with the Salford Rugby club or their salary cap.'"


Hypothetically, just hypothetically, this could happen without anyone who doesn't have access to Rangi Chase's tax affairs knowing anything about it, although it should show up somewhere in Koucash's accounts. Given Koucash's previous use of shell companies I doubt any RL journalist will be smart or hardworking enough to work it out from that end either.

Also hypothetically, it would be possible to sell a valuable share in a racehorse for £1 and not charge for stabling etc without this benefit appearing on any salary cap. Just hypothetically.

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Apologies if this is on another thread, I've not seen it anywhere else, but the Doc today announced that fans of all clubs who buy a season ticket before some date in October (can't remember exactly) will be entered into a draw to win the chance to name one of his horses, get tickets to all of its races for the first year, and get any winnings it makes in its first race.

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Just a thought, re. Salford Red Devils and salary cap.

Is it fesible that Dr K might 'avoid' paying players big wages by offsetting them through giving players (shares in) racehorses and % of winnings ?

Anyway, great announcements at Salford today, I genuinely wish them all the best, in bringing some excitement and razzamatazz back into SL, and (hopefully) a possible contender for 2014 onwards.

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Quote: shinymcshine "Just a thought, re. Salford Red Devils and salary cap.

Is it fesible that Dr K might 'avoid' paying players big wages by offsetting them through giving players (shares in) racehorses and % of winnings ?

Anyway, great announcements at Salford today, I genuinely wish them all the best, in bringing some excitement and razzamatazz back into SL, and (hopefully) a possible contender for 2014 onwards.'"

No because the value of the shares and winnings would be counted on the cap, in the same way if a club gave a player a car.

Agree on wishing Salford all the best though, hopefully the good doctor will spend his money on building Salford as a club, therefore building rugby league in general. Good for everyone in my view, and adds a bit of excitement!

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Quote: shinymcshine "Is it fesible that Dr K might 'avoid' paying players big wages by offsetting them through giving players (shares in) racehorses and % of winnings ? .'"


very feasible. For starters I have always said that Morley will be on minimum pay for the next 12 months while on a playing contract but I would expect that come 2015 when he joins the coaching staff he will get a very nice bonus / wage at that point. Chase and a share in a horse to offset would have no impact on the salary cap. Immoral? debatable. I don't say that just as a Salford fan but anybody who doesn't believe the salary cap has been getting bent around since it's inception is naïve.

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Quote: Ayres Rock " anybody who doesn't believe the salary cap has been getting bent around since it's inception is naïve.'"


As is believing an owner of a club giving a player a share in a racehorse wouldn't count on the cap.

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On the subject of the salary cap, Dr Koukash stated today that Salfords reatined list from this years squad are using up a measly £400k - £500k of the salary cap. By my reckoning that has left Salford with £1.2m + for new signings to take us up to full cap. icon_cool.gif

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Quote: Karlos13 "On the subject of the salary cap, Dr Koukash stated today that Salfords reatined list from this years squad are using up a measly £400k - £500k of the salary cap. By my reckoning that has left Salford with £1.2m + for new signings to take us up to full cap. ...and the potential for a 'haves' and 'have nots' split down the middle of the team.

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Quote: Ayres Rock "very feasible. For starters I have always said that Morley will be on minimum pay for the next 12 months while on a playing contract but I would expect that come 2015 when he joins the coaching staff he will get a very nice bonus / wage at that point. Chase and a share in a horse to offset would have no impact on the salary cap. Immoral? debatable. I don't say that just as a Salford fan but anybody who doesn't believe the salary cap has been getting bent around since it's inception is naïve.'"

Morley might well be on more when he's a coach, I'm not sure how that's getting around the salary cap in any way.
Why wouldn't shares in a horse be counted on the cap?

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Quote: Him "Morley might well be on more when he's a coach, I'm not sure how that's getting around the salary cap in any way.
Why wouldn't shares in a horse be counted on the cap?'"


because it isnt a regular salary and it isnt guarenteed to make money id imagine? i could be wrong?

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Quote: Karlos13 "On the subject of the salary cap, Dr Koukash stated today that Salfords reatined list from this years squad are using up a measly £400k - £500k of the salary cap. By my reckoning that has left Salford with £1.2m + for new signings to take us up to full cap. That should get you a decent squad but when it's reported your paying the likes pf Tommy Lee 100k it wont go very far.

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Quote: Wadski "...and the potential for a 'haves' and 'have nots' split down the middle of the team.'"


Does this apply to other clubs who spend the full cap? Or is it only Salford who have a wage difference between players while other clubs pay all players equal amounts?


Quote: Wadski "That should get you a decent squad but when it's reported your paying the likes pf Tommy Lee 100k it wont go very far.'"


Wouldn't believe everything you read in the MEN. Not the most reliable source of information.

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Quote: RED LEAGUE "because it isnt a regular salary and it isnt guarenteed to make money id imagine? i could be wrong?'"

Makes no difference. Shares have a value, in the same way a car does.

It's just rugby league fans making up rubbish in some desperate and bizarre attempt to talk down the game at nearly every opportunity.

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