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| Quote Serge A. Storms="Serge A. Storms"Not exactley but a more integrated way of running things'"
Certainly sounds like ' Feeder ' clubs to me |
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Why , how many people do Quins have in their marketing dept ? , or Celtic
In fact having a think about it today as the Skolars would find it difficult to ' partner up ' you could have them arrange things with Quins and Celtic
It all comes down to money , the non SL clubs dont have any so instead of having maybe one person working on their own not really getting anywhere , you have a team working full time on marketing but ' blitzing ' one club in any given week
The people the clubs supply learn more about marketing as a result so if that club then does get into SL you have an experienced person to head up any marketing that club then does
Like ' training ''"
So then you would be fine in these people who are learning being 'marked' on how well they are learning it, with this also being obviously helpful in understanding how well this club is run? |
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Well lets face it they are not very good at the moment [ bit like the Giants really so trying to add say 10 or 20 % isn't really that much to aim at
Part of this boils down to do the RFL want the people of Dewsbury watching the Rams or do they want them at the Giants , similar with Leigh people at the LSV or would they rather they go to the DW or the HJ ?'"
which is best for the game?
say 15-20 very strong clubs and 2nd tier which is nothing but a feeder
or one or two very strong clubs, 8 or so strong clubs, and 25 'weak' clubs? |
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"I agree , but the towns where many of the Championship clubs come from are very similar to Leigh , they no longer have large companies operating in them and the corporate support is no longer there [ if it ever was , that combined with in some cases the losing of the ' holy Grail ' of SL means chasing that support is a total waste of time
Spread your resourses too thinly and you achive nothing , plus there is time in the ' off ' season to look at that side of things , and for potentially directors to be better suited to deal with it
What I am reffering to is during the season'"
if that is the case, and the corporate support and sponsorship simply isnt there, and never will be,
then these clubs, unfortunately, will never survive in todays world, and we really cant be focusing our efforts on these clubs acheiving things we know they cant do
if clubs like Leigh dont even have the possibility of having the necessary corporate or sponsorship support, then your right, we shouldnt be chasing it.
But that means we should also understand clubs like Leighs position in the scheme of things. They simply dont have the potential to be SL clubs and we should be looking at strengthening their position in the RL pyramid and how that can improve RL as a whole |
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"So then you would be fine in these people who are learning being 'marked' on how well they are learning it, with this also being obviously helpful in understanding how well this club is run?'"
I dont think you are grasping the concept
Which people do you want ' marking and how ?
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Like the suggestion I made about having 4/5 regional marketing managers each overseeing 4/5 clubs , each club to provide 1 person , giving a manager with a team working at each club one week per month , or each club 2 days a fortnight
These regional managers overseen by 1 general manager supplied directly from the RFL
All clubs could then have a team working for them on specific projects part of the time instead of probably one person working full time
The managers then along with the general manager liase with each other on what has worked at different clubs and what hasn't worked
Each club given a budget that the manager overseas , but it is only spent on ' marketing ''" |
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"which is best for the game?
say 15-20 very strong clubs and 2nd tier which is nothing but a feeder
or one or two very strong clubs, 8 or so strong clubs, and 25 'weak' clubs?'"
To quote you , " There is no either or here "
Why does it have to be one or the other ?
Are the SL clubs that fragile they cannot survive unless they chase support in little towns like Batley,Swinton or Keighley ?
What is ' best for the game ' is all clubs progressing in whatever competition they are in ans at whatever level they are at |
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Well lets face it they are not very good at the moment [ bit like the Giants really so trying to add say 10 or 20 % isn't really that much to aim at
Part of this boils down to do the RFL want the people of Dewsbury watching the Rams or do they want them at the Giants , similar with Leigh people at the LSV or would they rather they go to the DW or the HJ ?'"
IIRC, the Bulls had, around 2000/01, more season ticket holders in Dewsbury than they did in Bradford.
and that's when Dewsbury were fairly successful on the field. |
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA":h1hldukuif that is the case, and the corporate support and sponsorship simply isnt there, and never will be,
then these clubs, unfortunately, will never survive in todays world, and we really cant be focusing our efforts on these clubs acheiving things we know they cant do
if clubs like Leigh dont even have the possibility of having the necessary corporate or sponsorship support, then your right, we shouldnt be chasing it.
But that means we should also understand clubs like Leighs position in the scheme of things. They simply dont have the potential to be SL clubs and we should be looking at strengthening their position in the RL pyramid and how that can improve RL as a whole'" , but also lets improve the whole of RL while we're at it |
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Well lets face it they are not very good at the moment [ bit like the Giants really so trying to add say 10 or 20 % isn't really that much to aim at
Part of this boils down to do the RFL want the people of Dewsbury watching the Rams or do they want them at the Giants , similar with Leigh people at the LSV or would they rather they go to the DW or the HJ ?'"
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| Quote Marto="Marto"no no you've got it all wrong. like marsdengiant says, everythings cool, Ken Davy will sort it out. nothing to worry about.'"
Sure he will.
Did you see that club wetting itself at the start of the 2009. desperate for £ to 'survive'. It was a very touching story. i always put on the violin music when I read about them.
Got bailed out by a private business built by an entrepreneur.
One of the posts on here said:
Bramley Buffaloes Chair Martyn Cheney exclaimed: “We were facing an uncertain future without a main sponsor and our very existence was under threat until PPD showed an interest.
Don'tcha just luv them sugar daddies!  |
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| Quote Marsdengiant="Marsdengiant":2dh7v2wa:lol: That from a leigh numpty...lovely
'" that the one thing that Huddersfield are not doing is pulling in the punters , when you can do that you will then truly be a ' super ' club
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