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| Quote: Dico "I agree Starbug, I think the gap will get bigger, I think come the next TV deal there could be a big increase regarding money, I think once we come out of this recession SL crowds could boom, especially at the 'lower' clubs with Sheds as grounds currently.
Championship clubs wont be able to compete with this unless they receive their own TV deal.
Sadly I dont think clubs like Leigh, although their stadium is mighty impressive have a chance of promotion and if the Championship becomes a good comp in its own right, it wont do it any favours for its best team to be cherry picked every other year.'"
You mean like the one they got in 2008. And the three-year one that replaced it for 2009-11?
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| Quote: tb "You mean like the one they got in 2008. And the three-year one that replaced it for 2009-11?'"
I think he means one where the clubs actually get paid
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| Quote: Starbug "I think he means one where the clubs actually get paid'"
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| Quote: Starbug "I think he means one where the clubs actually get paid'"
So, not "their own" TV deal (which they already have, and which includes clubs getting paid, though with strings on what they can spend the money on, otherwise they don't get it) – but a "far better TV deal than anyone has shown any signs of being interested in offering" (bearing in mind that only one other broadcaster has ever been interested in showing Championship [or NL as it the was] RL – and they wanted the RFL to pay them to put the games on a channel with even less of a footprint that Sky).
If we're entering those realms: I'd like to win the lottery, or at least have my employer give me a 500% pay rise. Both are pretty unlikely, mind.
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| Quote: nickcat0 "Except Union have promotion and relegation , plus a fight for European places , and different teams winning the big prizes .
RL has the same 14 teams for 3 years , Leeds and Saints winning everything , and nothinhg for the other teams to play for .'"
Whoops.....
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| Quote: tb "So, not "their own" TV deal (which they already have, and which includes clubs getting paid, though with strings on what they can spend the money on, otherwise they don't get it) – but a "far better TV deal than anyone has shown any signs of being interested in offering" (bearing in mind that only one other broadcaster has ever been interested in showing Championship [or NL as it the was] RL – and they wanted the RFL to pay them to put the games on a channel with even less of a footprint that Sky).
If we're entering those realms
I was just explaining what Dico meant
I dont recall any SKY money for the NL's/Championship clubs , Co-op yes , SKY no
Personally I dont think it's worth a carrot being on the TV on a thursday but that's another argument
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| Rd 24 - CC/Split Rd
CC
Semi 1 Wigan v Warrington 12,975
Semi 2 St's v Hudds 10,638
Total= 23,613
ESL
Salford v Les Cats 3,475
Quins v Bulls 3,112
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Rd 19Rd Total = 60,260
Rd Avg = 8,608
Rd 20Rd Total = 53,471
Rd Avg = 7,6,38
Rd 21 Total= 63,645
Rd Avg = 9,092
Rd22 Total=60,192
Rd Avg = 8,598
Rd 23 Total = 67,053
Rd Avg = 9,579
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| Quote: tb "You mean like the one they got in 2008. And the three-year one that replaced it for 2009-11?'"
You're a t1t at times.
You know exactly what I meant, you just try and pull people on the literal meaning of everything to try and look clever when actually you're a tool.
Next time you include a metaphor in a post I'll have to pull you up on it
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| Quote: Dico "You're a t1t at times.
You know exactly what I meant, you just try and pull people on the literal meaning of everything to try and look clever when actually you're a tool.
Next time you include a metaphor in a post I'll have to pull you up on it'"
So … when you said "get their own TV deal" you didn't mean "get their own TV deal" and weren't just showing your ignorance of the fact they have their own TV deal? And I was supposed to know this how? Telepathy?
So what did you mean?
Quote: Dico ""far better TV deal than anyone has shown any signs of being interested in offering" (bearing in mind that only one other broadcaster has ever been interested in showing Championship [or NL as it the was] RL – and they wanted the RFL to pay them to put the games on a channel with even less of a footprint that Sky)'"
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| Maybe I was slightly harsh in my last comment, you did seem rather pedantic.
Considering we see Championship matches on telly every thursday indicates there's already some form of tv rights deal in place, that is so common knowledge my comment should have been taken with the assumption I meant a tv deal that would actually offer the clubs money that would allow them to put structures in place to compete at some form of full time level without an 'O'Connor' if you like.
As you stated that is highly unlikely and that is the point I was trying to make in indicating that the gap will grow exponentially imo between Championship and SL clubs.
I've said elsewhere before I think the Chp will be removed of its best clubs in the coming years for two SL conferences and whats left underneath will be merely a skeleton/feeder league.
If the popularity of RL increases maybe we'll see an increase in Chp interest
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| Quote: Dico "Maybe I was slightly harsh in my last comment, you did seem rather pedantic.'"
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| Not sure how the arguments relate to crowds, I don't see a FT status as making any difference to crowds outside SL. Marketing, facilities and entertainment is where clubs need to spend money, not FT contracts, imo.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "Not sure how the arguments relate to crowds, I don't see a FT status as making any difference to crowds outside SL. Marketing, facilities and entertainment is where clubs need to spend money, not FT contracts, imo.'"
Except they dont have any, certainly not enough to do a half decent job of marketing their clubs against their local SL clubs
Dont forget that there is still relegation outside SL
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| Quote: Dico "Maybe I was slightly harsh in my last comment, you did seem rather pedantic.Considering we see Championship matches on telly every thursday indicates there's already some form of tv rights deal in place, that is so common knowledge my comment should have been taken with the assumption I meant a tv deal that would actually offer the clubs money that would allow them to put structures in place to compete at some form of full time level without an 'O'Connor' if you like.
As you stated that is highly unlikely and that is the point I was trying to make in indicating that the gap will grow exponentially imo between Championship and SL clubs.
I've said elsewhere before I think the Chp will be removed of its best clubs in the coming years for two SL conferences and whats left underneath will be merely a skeleton/feeder league.
If the popularity of RL increases maybe we'll see an increase in Chp interest'"
You were right the first time
Posts loads , says nothing , spent too long in the ' smoke ' , turned into one of those ' clever dick yuppies '
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| Rd 25 Aug 14th-16th
Wigan v Wolves 13,452
Leeds v Cas 16,931
Les Cats v Hull 9,800
Quins v Salford 2,612
Hudds v Bulls TBC
HKR v St's TBC
Wakey v CC TBC
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Rd 19Rd Total Rd 25 Total
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