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How can you say JJB's was a pass, clear knock on.
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Awwww didums , have the mighty LEEDS RHINO's lost again
Must be the refs fault
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| Quote: WANDERER "See SBR's post above.'" which is different to both your explanations
this is where your definition doesnt match the rules "A player who is out of play may again take part in the game when the advantage gained by not retiring has been lost."
no mention of a time frame there and a rule open to huge interpretation |
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| Quote: Starbug "Awwww didums , have the mighty LEEDS RHINO's lost again
Must be the refs fault'"
Video refs maybe.
I have no allegiance to either side (as I stated earlier) but it was a bad call to allow Bradfords match-winning try. There is clear evidence of foul play in the build-up which the VR was asked to look at. |
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| Quote: WANDERER "Watched the game last night;
The Leeds no try involving Webb - correct decision. Webb clearly makes no attempt to retire behind the play-the-ball and becomes involved in that play.
The JJB knock on - correct decision. JJB knocks the ball forward (and does not re-gather). It is a knock on if it hits the floor or hits an opposing player and cannot be promoted by the opposition or if it hits a team mate or is caught by a team mate.
Bradfords winning try - incorrect decision. There is evidence of foul play in the build up. Penalty to Leeds.'"
Agree on all three counts - I even thought there was suspicion of a knock on from Menzies when he attempted to pat the ball back for Bradford's winining try. |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "which is different to both your explanations
this is where your definition doesnt match the rules "A player who is out of play may again take part in the game when the advantage gained by not retiring has been lost."no mention of a time frame there and a rule open to huge interpretation'"
"Having retired the distance prescribed in the preceding paragraph no player of the team not in possession may advance until the ball has cleared the ruck. A player who is out of play may again take part in the game when the advantage gained by not retiring has been lost.
Thats for the side not in posession of the football - the defence. |
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So, in essence you'd criticise Thaler because he didn't ignore the rules of the game and make it up as he went along - you'dprefer it if he did ... weird.
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So, in essence you'd criticise Thaler because he didn't ignore the rules of the game and make it up as he went along - you'dprefer it if he did ... weird.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "which is different to both your explanations
this is where your definition doesnt match the rules "A player who is out of play may again take part in the game when the advantage gained by not retiring has been lost."
no mention of a time frame there and a rule open to huge interpretation'"
I have spoken in 'lay mans' terms - it looks to me like SBR has quoted the rule. I will accept that if the rule has been quoted word-for-word then it includes no timescale but in the incident witnessed last night surely Webb has 'gained an advantage' from being in an offside position initially as he could not have exchanged passes with Burrow if he had retired behind the original p-t-b? |
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| Quote: WANDERER "I'd have to say that the video ref had a big impact last night.
The Bradford v Leeds game should have finished a 6-6 draw as there is clearly foul play in the build up to the try. The referee had a suspicion of this as it was one of the things the VR was asked to look at but it was a poor decision by Mr Alibert to ignore this and allow the try to stand.'"
That's one of what twenty games or so I've seen this season which makes it 5% excluding all the other games that I've not seen. If it was happening at every game fair enough (and don't get me wrong there have been some poor video ref decisions recently) but refs tend to get decisions right the vast majority of the time. |
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| Quote: roughyedspud "so it's ok for them to miss forward passes,knock on's,offsides etc...?'"
So it's OK for the players to do this etc.......? |
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it's not the players job to police the game
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| Quote: Dave Lister "Having seen 3 games this weekend the levels of inconsistency among the officials on the pitch has been painful to watch.
Alibert in the Quins match made a series of bizzare, random decisions, picking and choosing when he would penalise certain offences.
Ganson ignored offside for the WHOLE of the Hull derby. Fine, the game flowed, but then in the Quins match players were getting pinged all over the place. Leeds and Bradford players were getting done for it as well. Smith was diabolical tonight and his performance embarrassing.
I would be interested to hear how the other officials have fared up this weekend.'"
Probably the inconsistancy was of of the same "HIGH", we are perfect, we can so no wrong, players!
I would be interested to hear about how all the other players have had "perfect" games this weekend! |
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| Quote: hfc herts "forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t
Well that's usually the way!
Can you do better.
What I do now know is that the players don't win games anymore it is the neutral match officials.
Don't you learn something every day.
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Dead right AdeyBull, Bull's have seemed to have pee'd off a lot of folks by having the audacity to win...
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