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| Quote: notorious "I keep getting told that Sky don't want a Canadian (or any overseas) team in Super League as it isn't in their interests so why would Sky employees be paid to promote the Canadian club as you have suggested? Or is it a wider conspirac
It's a conspiracy! clearly TWP are run by the lizard people live under the flat earth, who run the he EU the royal family.
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| Quote: Donnyman "You really believe that they have the freedom to move away from the script. The script has to be to tell us all how exciting and groundbreaking it all is otherwise they will just be putting SKY viewers off. They have to play everything up and are paid to do so as the mighty Snowie says. You on the other hand are free to judge TWP with an open mind, do please try it, remembering they are here to expand the player pool and the TV deals.'"
You telling people to judge Something with an open mind, that your best post ever.
I await your attemp at clever response with your open mind telling us how the game should be run just for the benefit of you and your other insuler types fan base, whilst harking back to the good old days of 1982 when RL was only played in the north for northern people, when the only RL on Tv was on he BBC where they only showed highlighted and half the second half to fill a gap between the second race at Chepstow and the football results. |
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| Quote: notorious "I keep getting told that Sky don't want a Canadian (or any overseas) team in Super League as it isn't in their interests so why would Sky employees be paid to promote the Canadian club as you have suggested? Or is it a wider conspiracy?'" if you go back and listen to Barry's comments and who he thought would win you will hear him clearly say I'll back Toronto just to be against you (Clarkie) it was so evident that he clearly knew Wigan would win but just was being sarcastic to Clarkie.
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| Quote: snowie "if you go back and listen to Barry's comments and who he thought would win you will hear him clearly say I'll back Toronto just to be against you (Clarkie) it was so evident that he clearly knew Wigan would win but just was being sarcastic to Clarkie.
You don think they do commentary for nothing do you ![]()
I was being tongue in cheek but it's a fair guess that not everyone hates Toronto and wants to see them lose every game - even some of the Sky presenters.
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| Quote: Steph Curry "Peter Sterling, the last great player Hull fc had, has claimed that expansion into North America is the absolute right thing to do as the game in the northern hemisphere is dying.
Well said that man. He gets it'"
No you are wrong, he is wrong, TWP offer nothing expansion offers nothing, the game must revert back to the heartlands asap it's our only hope, Donnyman says so and he knows it all and has all the answers and we must not disagree has he can back it all up with hard facts and has the ear of all super league chairman. |
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| Quote: notorious "I was being tongue in cheek but it's a fair guess that not everyone hates Toronto and wants to see them lose every game - even some of the Sky presenters.'"
I don't hate Toronto I just think travelling 6000 miles in a league competition is not financially stable especially when they are taking players from a small player pool in the first place, I getting fed up with being told that the game should be played in beautiful locations with no atmosphere, look at last night's match it was dull due to the lack of opposition supporters |
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It would appear that Toronto's main issue at the moment is a lack of Academy.
Moving forward they need some sort of Academy, having players officially working in the UK seems like a mess with apparently Canadian players not able to get work permits to play for a Canadian club. Who would a Toronto academy play against anyway. You would assume there must be some plan for Toronto to Dual Reg with Ottawa to partly solve this problem.
It would seem that an alternative would be for the Wolfpack to have a UK academy in say Cumbria, Wales, or even Rochdale/Oldham. These areas do have untapped talent and would improve Toronto's worth to the league. This is not even a novel idea, Melbourne have used a similar model very well, with feeder clubs in Queensland allowing them to discover Inglis/Slater/Cam Smith.
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| Quote: snowie "I don't hate Toronto I just think travelling 6000 miles in a league competition is not financially stable especially when they are taking players from a small player pool in the first place, I getting fed up with being told that the game should be played in beautiful locations with no atmosphere, look at last night's match it was dull due to the lack of opposition supporters'"
That's completely understandable and i'm right on the fence about it but some people do get very unreasonable about them so it's hard to have a decent discussion about it at times. They have completely stuffed themselves with this salary cap mismanagement though and I expect it will be a long, hard season for them. For it to work they needed a bit of help but also needed to get everything right and they definately haven't. |
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| Quote: snowie "...it was dull due to the lack of any sort of supporters and quality rugby'"
Corrected, last night was just bad. Blaming the lack of a few hundred ed up away fans is overlooking the problem.
Thursday night games in general are bad for atmosphere.
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| Quote: Donnyman "You really believe that they have the freedom to move away from the script. The script has to be to tell us all how exciting and groundbreaking it all is otherwise they will just be putting SKY viewers off. They have to play everything up and are paid to do so as the mighty Snowie says. You on the other hand are free to judge TWP with an open mind, do please try it, remembering they are here to expand the player pool and the TV deals.'"
You have been saying for ages now that Sky do not want Toronto or overseas teams. Why would they tell their employees to now publicly support them? |
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| Quote: The Silent H "You have been saying for ages now that Sky do not want Toronto or overseas teams. Why would they tell their employees to now publicly support them?'"
Or indeed televise their games at all. Surely the best reflection of what Sky feels various teams have to offer will be reflected in how often each features. |
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| Quote: The Silent H "You have been saying for ages now that Sky do not want Toronto or overseas teams. Why would they tell their employees to now publicly support them?'"
Because he has no idea what he’s talking about and just makes things up to support his narrative |
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Quote: The Silent H "You have been saying for ages now that Sky do not want Toronto or overseas teams. Why would they tell their employees to now publicly support them?'"
I've never said that at all. but when people cannot find an answer to the point made they usually try to shoot the Messenger. They try to argue that the point is "[ionly an opinion[/i". They then demand "evidence" even though they have never posted a shred of evidence in their whole life on here!! Somehow they think that if they don't bother to research something, or listen to those who run the game then it never happened and was never said.......
Mr. McManus made it clear the SKY contract needed English clubs in it because it's English club fans who buy the subscriptions. He sad it not me. Mr. McManus and Mr. Pearson at Hull conceded that a couple of overseas clubs could be admitted with the aim of those clubs stimulating expansion in terms of a bigger player pool and such clubs getting their own TV deal to add to the one here. But Mr. McManus speaking for the SL clubs was not convinced Toronto were ever going to supply Canadian players or a TV deal.
If you want to question that then here are the contact details https://www.saintsrlfc.com/club/whos-who/
As for your "Troll" point you know full well why nobody on SKY would say anything against the clubs SKY are showcasing. |
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Quote: The Silent H "You have been saying for ages now that Sky do not want Toronto or overseas teams. Why would they tell their employees to now publicly support them?'"
I've never said that at all. but when people cannot find an answer to the point made they usually try to shoot the Messenger. They try to argue that the point is "[ionly an opinion[/i". They then demand "evidence" even though they have never posted a shred of evidence in their whole life on here!! Somehow they think that if they don't bother to research something, or listen to those who run the game then it never happened and was never said.......
Mr. McManus made it clear the SKY contract needed English clubs in it because it's English club fans who buy the subscriptions. He sad it not me. Mr. McManus and Mr. Pearson at Hull conceded that a couple of overseas clubs could be admitted with the aim of those clubs stimulating expansion in terms of a bigger player pool and such clubs getting their own TV deal to add to the one here. But Mr. McManus speaking for the SL clubs was not convinced Toronto were ever going to supply Canadian players or a TV deal.
If you want to question that then here are the contact details https://www.saintsrlfc.com/club/whos-who/
As for your "Troll" point you know full well why nobody on SKY would say anything against the clubs SKY are showcasing. | |
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| Quote: Steph Curry "Because he has no idea what he’s talking about and just makes things up to support his narrative'"
Ha ha - here we go again "shoot the messenger" trolling You've been telling people on here for years how TWP are the future.
You've been ignoring the $10,000,000 debt, the absence of a cent of TV money, and no Canadian players ever.
Bottom of the league and set to run out of troops - Oh the glamour of it all Bring on New York and Ottawa...
More! the crowds cry  all hail "expansion".... |
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| Quote: Donnyman "I've never said that at all. but when people cannot find an answer to the point made they usually try to shoot the Messenger. They try to argue that the point is "[ionly an opinion[/i". They then demand "evidence" even though they have never posted a shred of evidence in their whole life on here!! Somehow they think that if they don't bother to research something, or listen to those who run the game then it never happened and was never said.......
Mr. McManus made it clear the SKY contract needed English clubs in it because it's English club fans who buy the subscriptions. He sad it not me. Mr. McManus and Mr. Pearson at Hull conceded that a couple of overseas clubs could be admitted with the aim of those clubs stimulating expansion in terms of a bigger player pool and such clubs getting their own TV deal to add to the one here. But Mr. McManus speaking for the SL clubs was not convinced Toronto were ever going to supply Canadian players or a TV deal.
If you want to question that then here are the contact details
Although they may form part of Sky's income, it's not the subscriptions that will decide the level of sponsorship from Sky, it's the level of advertising that they can secure on the back of showing RL on their platform.
Of course they would love to have 5X the level of subscriptions but, they would need to find a way to prevent people "watching from abroad" on dodgy systems.
Also regarding Toronto (and Catalan), if they dont receive a slice of the Sky "cake", it may be that the rest of the SL clubs are more than happy to have them make up the numbers.
For instance, if there were say, 6 overseas clubs in the comp, who didn't receive a share of the cash, the 6 UK clubs would receive a massively higher share ?
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