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Quote: Duckman "Just on the continuation of membership, the rfl's articles of association make intertesting reading, apologies for a mass quote but it might be interesting to some;

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They've actually got a rule saying there is no rule. icon_smile.gif Credit for foresight at least.

The Bulls should of course be re-admitted to membership of the RFL. Or continuance or whatever you want to call it. Even to SL, but... yeah I'm boring myself.

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The decision to give the ' new ' Bulls a SL licence should be a decision based purely on the Bulls , not on how they compare to any other clubs

Once that decision is made , if there is a vacant licence then and only then should any other clubs get involved

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Quote: Starbug "The decision to give the ' new ' Bulls a SL licence should be a decision based purely on the Bulls , not on how they compare to any other clubs

Once that decision is made , if there is a vacant licence then and only then should any other clubs get involved'"

That should be the case not for the 'new' Bulls, but everyone.

which removes the need for the 2nd part.

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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Do you really believe that another club from the Championship is going to replace Bradford?

It’s just another ridiculous exercise by the RFL to validate Bradford’s continued existence in S.L.'"


Well considering he seems almost happy that a large number of people have lost a huge amount of money because of gross missmanagement in his clubs name , nothing he believes or thinks has any credibilty

And yes , the Gutless RFL and its administrators dont have the balls to face up to the mess they have colouded in making , they are now going to find scapegoats to apportion blame to

It really is quite obscene

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Why arent they eligible to apply for a licence? Anyone who the RFL invite is entitled to apply for a licence.

It seems, again, that the main problem people have with this situation is that they wanted to the RFL to have their hands tied by the rules and we were left with no choice but to be forced to demote Bradford, but nobody really thinks that is the best outcome so they want the RFL to keep Bradford in, but be able to criticise them for not following the rules (which didnt exist)

This leaves us in the ridiculous position of people criticising the RFL for breaking rules which dont exist, criticising them for following the rules which do exist and criticising them leading us to a conclusion which we acknowledge is the best but are arguing we dont want.'"


That's kinda the point of rules! icon_wink.gif

Okay, accepting your version, would you at least acknowledge that the system you describe was mis-sold to us as:

1. Rigourous, consistent, fair and equitable.
2. Meaningful.

And, further, that the discovery that it isn't would be damaging to its credibility and likely to make adherence to its pretend principles or rules difficult to enforce - for big clubs because there is no need and for small clubs because there is no point?

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Quote: Mild Rover "That's kinda the point of rules!
Well put, Mild Rover, it seems that in SL size IS everything.

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Quote: Fax Machine "What does he think he'll get for 6 million quid? Has he any idea about the cost of sports stadia. It's a bit more expensive than opening a new restaurant.
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Maybe he knows a builder.

Quote: Fax Machine "And yet, on the Bulls forum you are claiming that the club is a continuous entity and the changing of companies is irrelevant. Make your mind up.'"

Not "and yet", this is the fact, and the only thing I've said. The business was, and the business is. It was sold as a going concern. The changing of companies is not "irrelevant", but what it is, is a change of owner. Like if you sell me your chip shop. It used to be your chip shop, and maybe you ran it into the ground, and got into loads of debts. But now it's my chip shop. It has a new owenr.

I didn't buy YOU, and I didn't take on your debts.
Quote: Fax Machine "In which case the licence is carrying on with the same club.

It is one or the other. Bradford, new club, none of the issues of the old ownership are relevent, Bradford old club, Licence is theirs.'"


No, the new owners have asked the RFL whether they can take over the SL licence, and so far, no decision has been made. Unless you never read any news, you must surely already know this?? If the licence was "carrying on", the "farce" as some have called it of a mini licensing round would not be taking place.

Quote: Fax Machine "Do you really believe that another club from the Championship is going to replace Bradford?'"

I don't believe Bradford are certainties to be in SL next year, but no, I absolutely do NOT believe that another club from the Championship is going to replace Bradford, and find it hard to see how one could even make a case for that, at the drop of a proverbial hat.

Quote: Fax Machine "It’s just another ridiculous exercise by the RFL to validate Bradford’s continued existence in S.L.'"

Except that whether they do do some such exercise, they are damned, but if they did not, then the same people as are damning them for doing it, would be damning them for NOT doing it, and for NOT giving anyone else any opportunity.

I agree that in reality the chances that any of the Championship clubs could present a convincing case for SL, within a week or so, are nil, but don't agree that the Bradford SL decision has already been made, those whining about the RFL are mainly those with the "bradford should be out on their ear no questions asked" axe to grind. Which btw is a not unreasonable axe in the sense that while I don't agree with it, there are certainly significant arguments to be made. It's just a pity that very few on here are bothering with significant arguments instead descending to knee-jerkery and dribbling venom. (which isn't aimed at you btw)

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Isnt this just the same as what happened to Wakefield? The only difference being that the new Wakey paid some of the debts of the old Wakey?

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Quote: Mild Rover "That's kinda the point of rules! I would agree it was sold very poorly to some stakeholders in the game, others with vested interests use it to further them and as a stick to beat the RFL.

I dont agree that it isnt rigourous or fair and equitable (if other clubs were or Bradfords size, they would be treated the same) and meaningful.

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Quote: Mild Rover "They've actually got a rule saying there is no rule. 1.83251953125:10
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