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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Its also difficult to see how replacing a club currently averaging about 14k with a club who will average maybe 5/6k at best [iis fulfilling, its obligations to help the competition meet the objectives of investment and growth[/i'"
The scenario is like running a corner shop succcessfully and looking after all of your customers even though they may be relatively few in number, or opening up a large superstore, employing plenty of people and losing money hand over fist and then not paying your suppliers for goods which have been sold in the superstore.
Although the superstore is paying many peoples wages (with someone elses money ??) and they may have a shiny sign above the door, sooner or later the superstore will close down because it is not sustainable and nobody will want to invest.
So should we encourage them to keep trading and take money which is not theirs or should they close thier doors ?
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| I hate it when people drop in numbers that they have made up
Bradford havnt had 14,000 on a regular basis in a long time
To be honest if the stay in Super League it will be back down below 10,000 in next few years
They should go down, dosnt matter how well they have done in last 10 year, they messed up
You cant have one rule for one and not for another
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| Quote: Eadie "I hate it when people drop in numbers that they have made up
Bradford havnt had 14,000 on a regular basis in a long time
To be honest if the stay in Super League it will be back down below 10,000 in next few years
They should go down, dosnt matter how well they have done in last 10 year, they messed up
You cant have one rule for one and not for another'"
Except in Super League !
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| Which clubs have been relegated for going into administration?
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| Quote: Eadie "I hate it when people drop in numbers that they have made up
Bradford havnt had 14,000 on a regular basis in a long time
To be honest if the stay in Super League it will be back down below 10,000 in next few years
They should go down, dosnt matter how well they have done in last 10 year, they messed up
You cant have one rule for one and not for another'"
Bradford got 5 out of 13 attendances above 14k last season, including one above 19k, they also got another 2 above 13k and not one below 12k.
If you hate people making things up, why did you do it?
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "The scenario is like running a corner shop succcessfully and looking after all of your customers even though they may be relatively few in number, or opening up a large superstore, employing plenty of people and losing money hand over fist and then not paying your suppliers for goods which have been sold in the superstore.
Although the superstore is paying many peoples wages (with someone elses money ??) and they may have a shiny sign above the door, sooner or later the superstore will close down because it is not sustainable and nobody will want to invest.
So should we encourage them to keep trading and take money which is not theirs or should they close thier doors ?'"
Im sorry but your analogy is nonsense
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Bradford got 5 out of 13 attendances above 14k last season, including one above 19k, they also got another 2 above 13k and not one below 12k.
If you hate people making things up, why did you do it?'"
That is the number of tickets sold , at a cost that is completely unsustainable , and has partly led to the mess we are currently witnessing , so what figure do they need to be able to operate without financially collapsing ? , 20,000 - 25,000 ?
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| Was going to look on Bradford web site but can't find it, if you put Bradford bulls in google it dosnt list it, have they not paid for their domain name
Haha how skint ????
Anyone know a link to website
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| Quote: Starbug "That is the number of tickets sold , at a cost that is completely unsustainable , and has partly led to the mess we are currently witnessing , so what figure do they need to be able to operate without financially collapsing ? , 20,000 - 25,000 ?'"
Nobody knows, although some like to pretend they do.
We have nowhere near enough information to know.
And without knowing their running costs, how much was historic debt and how much efficiency there was to squeeze out of the club, we don’t even know if that price was unsustainable. We know their business model as whole wasn’t sustainable, not the pledge scheme in isolation.
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| I knew they it wasn't 14k.
Can't check now though coz they can't afford to pay for their web site anymore
That's really poor , such a big club and you can't buy tickets online or view the web site
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| Just called the bulls
They no longer have a web site !!!!!
Appalling
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Im sorry but your analogy is nonsense'"
I dont think so.
They are living well beyond their means and unable to pay wages never mind their suppliers.
For the purposes of the analagy so you can understand
Large rugby club = superstore (call them Bradford if you like)
Corner shop = Fax or Toulouse (sorry Fax fans for calling your club a corner shop !)
Fax making a profit, Bulls blowing cash for fun
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| Quote: Eadie "I knew they it wasn't 14k.
Can't check now though coz they can't afford to pay for their web site anymore
That's really poor , such a big club and you can't buy tickets online or view the web site'"
You didnt know anything, you were wrong. Its ok, I've provided the evidence for you so you dont need to jump in and make a fool of yourself again.
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| Quote: Eadie "
You cant have one rule for one and not for another'"
Which clubs have been relegated for going into administration?
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