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Quote: Wheels "How do you know it is a semi-amateur division? Have you seen the business plans for each club?'"


Even at Doncaster hardly a million miles from the heartlands we rely heavily on players from the Wakefield/Featherstone/Castleford and Hull areas. So where are the players in for example Oxford going to come from to build a competitive team against ourselves who are hardly RL giants?
Nobody has come up with an answer for this.

And I like the York fan who thinks they deserve their place in the Championship. Not one to revel in the misfortune/mismanagement of others eh? I’m alright Jack!

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Quote: Wheels "Does it? Or will the remaining CC1 clubs now be in a much more competitive division that suits their level?'"


I think CC1 was very competitive this season and it will be next season so no i dont think it will make it more competitive.

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Quote: rupert bear "Even at Doncaster hardly a million miles from the heartlands we rely heavily on players from the Wakefield/Featherstone/Castleford and Hull areas. So where are the players in for example Oxford going to come from to build a competitive team against ourselves who are hardly RL giants?
Nobody has come up with an answer for this.

And I like the York fan who thinks they deserve their place in the Championship. Not one to revel in the misfortune/mismanagement of others eh? I’m alright Jack!'"


Both myself and Richie came up with the answer a few pages ago.

York do deserve their place in the Championship, but even if York were in Championship One next year I would still be wholeheartedly supporting this move.

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Quote: Wheels "Both myself and Richie came up with the answer a few pages ago.

York do deserve their place in the Championship, but even if York were in Championship One next year I would still be wholeheartedly supporting this move.'"


For sure...

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Quote: rupert bear "For sure...'"


Yes for sure, because unlike some fans, I like to see the bigger picture. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Wheels "Yes for sure, because unlike some fans, I like to see the bigger picture.
Thats why you miss all the ' details ' icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Starbug "Thats why you miss all the ' details '
Pah, I got the important bits!

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Quote: Starbug "The SL equivilant of what will be Championship 1 in 2013 would be say Huddersfield and Castleford with 8 Quins clubs to play , now ask yourself a question , would both those clubs be able to run financially in that scenario ?'"


If fans really don't want their club to compete in a national league, they can always a) switch allegiance to a club in, say, the Pennine league or b) convince their club to drop out of the semi-pro ranks and find a nice amateur regional league to compete in.


Quote: Starbug "Yes and just imagine the uproar there would be then.

This has disaster written all over it.
Where are all these RL players going to come from to turn these amatuer teams into viable semi pro clubs in non RL areas?'"



You do realise this is an argument against [iany[/i movement between amateur, semi-pro and professional ranks? By this logic, no club currently in the semi-pro league should ever be allowed into SL because they'd dilute the quality of the competition.

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Quote: Wheels "Pah, I got the important bits!'"



Have you never heard the saying , " The Devil is in the details " ? , its where all the important bits are

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Quote: tb "If fans really don't want their club to compete in a national league, they can always a) switch allegiance to a club in, say, the Pennine league or b) convince their club to drop out of the semi-pro ranks and find a nice amateur regional league to compete in.
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That isn't the point being made , so why bring it up ?

Even Mr Rimmer [ I grin every time I use that name ] acknowledges that there will be quite a drop in standards , when he refers to a ' leap of faith ' , it is that drop in standards that could damage whichever Heartland clubs are left in Championship 1 , once again surely leaving 4 of those teams in a league of 12 would have been a better idea

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Quote: Starbug "That isn't the point being made'"



You should sue yourself for misrepresentation then

Quote: Starbug "The SL equivilant of what will be Championship 1 in 2013 would be say Huddersfield and Castleford with 8 Quins clubs to play , now ask yourself a question , would both those clubs be able to run financially in that scenario ?'"


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Quote: tb "You should sue yourself for misrepresentation then

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You were making the geographical point , I was making the financial attractiveness of the opposition point , Quins bring very few away fans , which reduces atmosphere at matches and tends not to entice your floating SL fan , hence why the likes of W1g4n massively market the matches against them , I dont think even they would like to have to do that for 90 % of their home matches ?

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Quote: Starbug "You were making the geographical point , I was making the financial attractiveness of the opposition point , Quins bring very few away fans , which reduces atmosphere at matches and tends not to entice your floating SL fan , hence why the likes of W1g4n massively market the matches against them , I dont think even they would like to have to do that for 90 % of their home matches ?'"
CC1 clubs hardly have significant away support.

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Quote: headhunter "CC1 clubs hardly have significant away support.'"


But the point still stands , new clubs dont attract your own supporters , that is where any heartland clubs will suffer , their fan base will see it as being in a mickey mouse competition

Just as a SL club playing a succssession of Harlequin type clubs would struggle , please dont ' act ' stupid , you know the point I am making , and you know it is a valid one , its like the feeder club argument , fans would not turn up to watch another clubs juniors ' masquerading ' as their club

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Quote: Starbug "But the point still stands , new clubs dont attract your own supporters , that is where any heartland clubs will suffer , their fan base will see it as being in a mickey mouse competition

Just as a SL club playing a succssession of Harlequin type clubs would struggle , please dont ' act ' stupid , you know the point I am making , and you know it is a valid one , its like the feeder club argument , fans would not turn up to watch another clubs juniors ' masquerading ' as their club'"
I would think it would be a lot easier to market games against clubs from places like Bristol and Coventry than it would against the likes of Keighley and Hunslet, no disrespect meant. If fans don't want to turn up to watch certain clubs then that's their problem, these sort of fans TBH are ones that RL and the clubs themselves could do without.

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